Judge (band)

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Name = Judge


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Origin = New York, United States
Genre = Hardcore punk (early)
Metalcore (late)
Years_active = 1987–1991
Label = Revelation Records
Schism Records
Associated_acts = Bold
CIV
Glassjaw
Gorilla Biscuits Nightmare of You
Project X
Rival Schools
Shelter
Side By Side
Warzone
Youth of Today
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Past_members = Mike "Judge" Ferraro
Matt Pincus
John "Porcell" Porcelly
Sammy Siegler
Luke Abbey
Jimmy Yu

Judge was a New York-based straight edge band; formed in 1987 by Youth of Today guitarist, John "Porcell" Porcelly, and former Death Before Dishonor/Youth of Today drummer, Mike "Judge" Ferraro.

History

Their first release was a 7" EP on Porcell's label Schism (which he ran along with Side By Side/ Gorilla Biscuits guitar-player Alex Brown) entitled "New York Crew". The record featured 5 songs, one of which was a cover of "Warriors" by the British oi!/punk band Blitz. On this recording, the band was merely a two-piece, featuring Porcelly on bass and guitar, and Ferraro on vocals and drums. But with the addition of bass-player Jimmy Yu (of Mike's former band Death Before Dishonor, which eventually evolved into Supertouch) and drummer "Lukey" Luke Abbey (Warzone/ Gorilla Biscuits), they got together a fully-functional live line-up.

The band received lots of criticism due to their militant Straight Edge lyrics, especially from fanzines like San Francisco's Maximum Rock'N'Roll. The militant lyrics were a conscious move on the band's part, as they were sick of seeing bands like Youth Of Today, who in reality had a very positive message, get slagged for being too militant. So they decided to give the nay-sayers exactly what they wanted - the most militant Straight Edge band imaginable. Mike Ferraro has later on admitted that provocation was an important aim for the band.

Judge was not just heavy in message, the music had very metal-influenced riffing, but remained close to its hardcore roots, without going all out metal, such as bands like Agnostic Front and DRI.

With a new line-up of Sammy Siegler (Side By Side/ Youth Of Today/ Project X etc.) on drums and Matt Pincus on bass, the band proceeded to record their full-length LP "Bringin' It Down" for Revelation Records at Chung King Studios in New York City. The recording was finished, but the band were so unhappy with the result that they decided to scrap it and re-record it at Normandy Sound in Rhode Island, where The Cro-Mags had recorded their landmark "The Age of Quarrel" album. Revelation did however put out a limited pressing of the original recording, fittingly titled "Chung King Can Suck It (LP)". It was given to people who had pre-ordered the record, and with only 110 copies pressed (all on white vinyl), it is one of the most sought-after hardcore records in existence, going for as much as $2500+ USD on online auction sites such as eBay.

Eventually, "Bringin' It Down" was released in 1989, and is considered to this day by many to be one of the best hardcore records of its time.

Judge continued touring up until 1991, and even released another 7" EP, "There Will Be Quiet", featuring "The Storm" and "Forget This Time" (the CD-version also contains a cover-version of "When the Levee Breaks", originally by Led Zeppelin).

"Those drugs are gonna kill you if I don't get to you first" is the hardest straight edge line ever written.

Careers after Judge

John Porcelly went on to tour and record with Hare Krishna hardcore band Shelter (featuring Ray Cappo of Youth Of Today, as well as a revolving line-up of various other more and less well-known hardcore musicians: Tom Capone of Bold/ Quicksand and Vic DiCara of Beyond/ Inside Out/ 108- to name a few). He later started the bands Never Surrender and Last of The Famous, ran a record label called [http://www.fightfirehq.com Fight Fire With Fire] and the website [http://www.truetilldeath.com TrueTillDeath.com] , but all these projects seems to be either scrapped or inactive at this point. He played with the reunited Bold in 2005-06, and a book chronicling all issues of his fanzine Schism was also released in late 2005.

Mike Ferraro continued in the band Mike Judge & Old Smoke, a band playing Neil Young-inspired acoustic music. They released a 12" on Revelation Records in 1993.

Sammy Siegler played in several late 80's/early 90's hardcore bands, either regularly or as a replacement. In the mid-late 90's he recorded and toured with the band CIV, featuring Anthony Civarelli and Arthur Smilios of Gorilla Biscuits. He has also appeared in Shelter, and major label rock band Rival Schools, featuring Walter Schreifels (also of Gorilla Biscuits, as well as Quicksand and several other bands). In 2005 he joined Limp Bizkit as temporary replacement for drummer John Otto.

Matt Pincus currently runs the NYC-based record label [http://www.some.com Some Records] , which has released records from bands like Hot Water Music, Errortype 11 and Beyond.

Jimmy Yu became a Zen/ Chan Buddhist monk in 1991 under the name Guogu, and now teaches Buddhism and meditation under the direction of master Sheng Yen. Yu is currently an Assistant Professor of Religion at Florida State University. Yu received his Ph.D. from Princeton University's Department of Religion in 2008. Yu teaches courses in East Asian religious traditions, specializing in Chinese and Japanese Buddhism and late imperial Chinese cultural history. His research interests include the cultural history of the body, Buddhist monasticism, Chan/Zen Buddhism, and popular religions within the broader context of fifteenth to seventeenth centuries China.

Discography

Official releases

* "New York Crew" 7" EP (Schism Records (SKIZ-2) (1988) / Revelation Records (REV 14)) (1989)
** 3000 copies in 3 pressings on Schism.
** Later re-pressed on Revelation, with a picture label of Sammy Siegler ripping off a "have your id's ready" sign in front of CBGB's. The 1st press was 4000 black and 1000 blue vinyl. It has later been repressed in the thousands.
* "Chung King Can Suck It (LP)" LP (Revelation Records (REV -1))
** One-time press of 110 on white vinyl.
* "Bringin' It Down" LP (Revelation Records (REV 15)) (1989)
** 1st press: 5458 black vinyl, 712 green vinyl, purple labels.
** 2nd press: black vinyl, red labels.
** 3rd press (and beyond): black vinyl, maroon labels.
** Final press (2001): 333 orange vinyl.
* "There Will Be Quiet..." 7" EP (Revelation Records (REV 20)) (1990)
** 4000 black vinyl, 1000 gold vinyl.
* "" CD/2xLP (Revelation Records (REV 122)
** Contains all of Judge's recorded output, including "Chung King Can Suck It" for the first time on an official, non-limited Revelation release.

Bootlegs

* "Revelation Can Suck It" 10" (Revoltation Records) (1992)
** Contains the recording that appears on the limited "'Chung King Can Suck It'" LP, but on a 10" format.
* "No Apologies: The Chung King Sessions" LP (Lost & Found Records (LF033)) (1992)
** Another bootleg of the "Chung King..." LP. Also has 4 additional bonus tracks.
* "Vivo En WNYU" 7"
** Contains part of the band's 1988 appearance on the 'Crucial Chaos' radio-show on NYC's WNYU radio station.
** 500 black vinyl, 50 red vinyl, xeroxed sleeve.

Related bands

* Alone in a Crowd - Lars Weiss (2nd guitar in later period Judge ).
* Chain of Strength - Ryan Hoffman (2nd guitar, briefly, before Lars Weiss ).
* CIV - Sammy Siegler
* Glassjaw - Sammy Siegler
* Gorilla Biscuits - Luke Abbey
* Last of the Famous - John Porcelly
* Mike Judge & Old Smoke - Mike Ferraro
* Moondog - Luke Abbey
* Never Surrender - John Porcelly
* Nightmare of You - Sammy Siegler
* Project X - John Porcelly, Sammy Siegler
* Ray & Porcell - John Porcelly
* Rival Schools - Sammy Siegler
* Shelter - John Porcelly
* Side By Side - Sammy Siegler
* Supertouch - Mike Ferraro
* Death Before Dishonour - Mike Ferraro, Jimmy Yu
* Uppercut - Lars Weiss
* Warzone - Luke Abbey
* Youth of Today - John Porcelly, Mike Ferraro, Sammy Siegler