- Asia (band)
Infobox musical artist
Name = Asia
Background = group_or_band
Genre = Rock,
progressive rock, hard rock
Years_active = 1981 - 1986; 1989- present
Label = Geffen, Great Pyramid, Musidisc, WEA Japan, Mayhem Recordings, Resurgence, Snapper, InsideOut, Frontiers, EMI America, King, Victor
Associated_acts = Yes,
King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Uriah Heep, U.K., The Buggles
URL = http://www.originalasia.com/
Geoff Downes John WettonSteve Howe Carl Palmer
Past_members = See: Asia band members
Infobox musical artist
Name = Asia Featuring John Payne
Background = group_or_band
Genre = Rock,
Years_active = 2007 - present
Label = Devgel
Associated_acts = GPS
URL = http://www.theasiaband.com/
Current_members = John Payne
Jay Schellen Guthrie Govan Erik Norlander
Asia is a rock group formed in 1981. The band was labelled a supergroup and included former members of veteran
progressive rockbands Yes, King Crimson, and Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Uriah Heep, U.K., Roxy Music, Wishbone Ashand The Buggles. As of 2008, there are two distinct groups using the Asia name: a reunion of the band's original line-up performing as Asia, and Asia Featuring John Payne featuring three members from later incarnations of Asia.
Asia began with the apparent demise of Yes and
Emerson, Lake & Palmer, two of the flagship bands of British progressive rock. After the break-up of King Crimsonin 1974, various plans for a super group involving bassist John Wettonhad been mooted, including the abortive British Bulldog project with Bill Brufordand Rick Wakemanin 1976. In 1977, Bruford and Wetton were reunited in UK, along with guitarist Allan Holdsworthand keyboardist/violinist Eddie Jobson. Their eponymousdebut was released in 1978. By 1980, after UK's demise, a new super group project was suggested involving Wetton, Wakeman, drummer Carl Palmerand (then little known) guitarist Trevor Rabin, but Wakeman walked out of the project shortly before they were due to sign to Geffen and before they had ever played together. Rabin, in a filmed interview from 1984 and included in the recently released and updated DVD 9012Live, said that his involvement with this project never went anywhere because "there was no chemistry" among the participants.
In early 1981, Wetton and Yes guitarist Steve Howe were brought together by
A&Rman John Kalodnerand Geffen Recordsto start working and writing. They were eventually joined by Carl Palmer, and finally by Howe's recent Yes cohort, keyboardist Geoff Downes. The band's early offerings, under the auspices of Geffen record label head David Geffenand Kalodner, were considered disappointing by music critics [cite web|url=http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/165/biography|title=Asia Biography|publisher=Simon & Schuster|work=The Rolling Stone Encyclopedia of Rock & Roll|date=2001] and fans of traditional progressive rock, who found the music closer to radio-friendly AOR pop-rock. However, Asia clicked with fans of arena acts such as Journey, Boston, and Styx. Rolling Stone gave "Asia" an indifferent review [web cite|url=http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/_/id/101939|title=CD Reviews Archive|publisher=Rolling Stone Magazine] , while still acknowledging the band's musicianship was a cut above the usual AOR expectations.
Asia's eponymous debut album, released in March 1982, received considerable commercial success, spending nine weeks at number one in the U.S. album chart and selling over 4 million copies in the US alone. The album sold over 10 million worldwide. The singles "Only Time Will Tell" (#17) and "Heat of the Moment" (#4) became huge
Top 40hits, with the latter cracking the Top Five, and remaining a stadium favourite at U.S. sporting events.
"Sole Survivor" also received heavy air play on rock stations across the US, as did "Wildest Dreams."
In the US the band did extremely well, selling out every date on their debut tour, which began in theaters but quickly expanded into arenas because of high ticket demand. Asia would go on to receive a Grammy nomination as Best New Artist Of The Year.
MTValso played Asia videos on heavy rotation....as many as 5 times a day. Billboard named the Asia debut as album of the year. Asia's logo and cover art was handled by famed illustratorRoger Dean of Yes and Uriah Heep fame.
Asia became known as pioneers of phase two of the progressive rock era by avoiding long-winded forays, and by including (to at least a greater extent than phase one) enough commercial polish to attract radio airplay outside of album-rock circles. Yes' "
90125" and " Big Generator", ELPowell's " Emerson, Lake & Powell" in 1986, and the GTR album would all follow in the Asia debut album's footsteps.
However, neither the second nor any following Asia album repeated the chart success of the first. "Don't Cry" was a Top Ten single in the summer of 1983 and the video was played non-stop on MTV, while "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes," a [http://www.asiaworld.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=995& fan favourite] for John Wetton's vocal performance, charted inside of Billboard's top 40. The video for "Smile" also scored heavy MTV play. But "Rolling Stone" panned "Alpha" as an over-produced commercial album [cite web|url=http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/165/albums/album/133986|title=Asia: Alpha - album review|date=September 15, 1983|author=J.D. Considine|publisher=Rolling Stone Magazine] , while others lamented that Howe and Palmer were effectively reduced to session musicians. The tracks "Eye To Eye" and "My Own Time" became huge fan favourites. "Open Your Eyes" and "The Heat Goes On" became concert staples. "Alpha" received indifferent reviews from various critics, while still attaining
platinumstatus. "Alpha" reached #6 on the USA Billboard album chart.
In October 1983, Wetton was forced out of the group on the heels of the comparatively disappointing sales of "Alpha". The band stated that Wetton quit and it remains debatable to this day what really happened. In any event, the next leg of their 1983 US tour (which had begun in the summer but shut down suddenly on September 10th after a performance at
Pine Knobin Detroit), scheduled for the fall, was abruptly cancelled, reportedly because of low ticket sales. Ex-King Crimson and ELP front man Greg Lakereplaced Wetton for the highly publicised "Asia in Asia" concert at the Nippon BudokanHall in Tokyo, Japanon Dec. 6, 1983, which was the first concert broadcast over satellite to MTV in the US and later made into a home video. The songs had to be played in a different key to suit Lake's voice and he read most of the lyrics from a teleprompter. The Japanese dates were successful financially but not musically. Lake left in early 1984 and Asia reunited with Wetton that same year to start work on their next album. But Steve Howe soon left to be replaced by Krokus guitarist Mandy Meyer. Howe then enjoyed brief success with GTR, another supergroup, formed with Steve Hackettof Genesis and produced by Downes.
Astra to the USSR
The third Asia album, "Astra", released in November 1985, was not as commercially successful as the first two. Geffen cancelled the projected tour because of lack of interest. Howe's replacement, [http://www.mandymeyer.ch Mandy Meyer] of Krokus, provided more of a hard-rock guitar approach. The band enjoyed a modest charting single, "Go," (#46) with Meyer's guitar heroics centre stage. The music video was another hit with MTV. In 1986 this Asia line-up folded, bringing the group to an end for the time being. Wetton resurfaced with a 1987 album with guitarist
Phil Manzanera, " Wetton-Manzanera", based on material that had been originally intended for Asia. And John Wetton joined Phenomenaon their Dreamrunner album and landed a number one hit in South America with the Phenomenasingle "Did it all for Love", also appearing in the related music video. Asia were also credited with a contribution to the Sylvester Stallonefilm soundtrack to " Over the Top", although Wetton was the only original band member involved. Wetton and Downes' attempt to restart the group in 1987 with guitarist Scott Gorham(formerly of Thin Lizzy) and drummer Michael Sturgis(ex- A-ha) fizzled when they were unable to land a recording deal. Wetton and Palmer were more successful in reuniting the band for a few tours of Europe in 1989. Downes (who was working on a project with Greg Lake) was not available at this time, so keys were played by John Young. Guitars on this tour were handled by Alan Darby(who was replaced shortly after by German guitarist Holger Larish) and Zoe Nicholasand Susie Webbwere brought aboard to provide back up vocals. Unlike Wetton's later anger at Asia continuing without him in the 1990s, this lineup was viewed favourably by other Asia band members.
Asia returned to the studio in 1990 with Toto guitarist
Steve Lukatherand other musicians (see discography below) and released "Then & Now", a best-of with 4 new tracks. Pat Thralljoined Downes, Palmer, and Wetton, on tour and they performed classic material, including King Crimsonand UK songs. The band toured the former Soviet Unionin November 1990 to play in front of 20,000 fans, two sold out nights. "Days Like These" charted at #64 in 1990 and climbed all the way to #2 on the Album Rock Tracks chart. A video was planned but was scrapped because various problems hampered the single's chance at the Top 40. Asia received the RIAA gold album award for "Then and Now" many years later, but the initial response was poor as the album failed to dent the Top 100. The decision not to tour the US for this album did not help any. A DVD and CD can be bought of the Asia concert in the USSR. John Wetton left in 1991 after a South American tour, disgusted by Asia's lack of success in the States. He went on to focus on recording solo albums, none of which would yield any hits.
The Payne era
In 1991, vocalist/bassist John Payne joined the band and, together with Geoff Downes, enlisted new musicians and led Asia through to 2005. The first album with this line-up, "Aqua" (1992), also featuring Steve Howe and Carl Palmer (whose drum tracks were re-recorded from other works, to give the impression that three original members worked on the project) and new guitarist Al Pitrelli (ex-
Alice Cooper), was released on Great Pyramid/JRS Records in the US. Howe returned during the sessions having just left Yes again, but Palmer would leave soon, committing to an ELP reunion, and was able to play on just three songs. Session men then completed the drumming. Downes' environmentalist single "Who Will Stop The Rain?" (originally written for Max Baconand the aborted "Rain" project, later appearing on Bacon's album "From the Banks of the River Irwell") attracted some radio attention. The "Aqua" club tour featured Howe (whose presence was heavily promoted), who took the stage after the fifth song. The tour was successful enough to warrant the band's continuation. The 1992-93 tour featured Downes, Howe, Payne, guitarist Vinny Burnsand drummer Trevor Thornton. Before a European festival tour in late 1993, Howe and Burns left replaced by guitarist Keith More. Payne acquitted himself on the tour, but many fans refused to support an Asia lineup without Wetton.
The group released "Aria" in 1994 and "Arena" in 1996. "Aria" featured former
Danger Dangerand then future Megadethlead guitarist Al Pitrellionce again who would leave Asia during the short "Aria" tour. This illustrates how the keyboard-driven band often faced trouble keeping a regular guitarist. "Aria" did not fair well commercially and the ensuing tour was limited to four concerts. Ex- Simply Redguitarist Aziz Ibrahimtook over during the tour. "Aria" also introduced new drummer Michael Sturgis, who had been involved during the band's aborted 1987 reunion and had appeared on some of the sessions for "Aqua".
Over New Year's Eve in 1996 a broken pipe inundated the control room in Downes and Payne's recording studio, Electric Palace, in London. Amid the lost equipment, a vault containing unreleased material was found intact. The band decided to release the double-disc "
Archiva", a collection of unreleased tracks recorded during the first three Downes/Payne albums. Next, "Arena" featured Downes, Payne, Sturgis, Ibrahim and guest guitarist Elliot Randall(ex- Steely Dan, Randy Crawford). The album featured Asia's longest track ever in "The Day Before The War". The album was released on Resurgence Records but there was no tour because of lack of interest. 2001's "Aura" featured three different session guitarists, including Ian Crichton(of Canadian progressive rock band Saga) who'd briefly joined Asia in 1998-1999. An all acoustic album, "Live at the Town & Country Club", was recorded by the group in September 1997 (and released in 1999) that featured a lineup of Downes, Payne, Ibrahim and Bob Richards on drums.
In 1999 there was talk of a reunion of the original lineup (minus Howe). The original proposition included Dave Kilminster on guitar, who had previously toured and recorded with John Wetton. While Howe was interested in participating, he was unable because of his busy schedule with Yes. This reunion did not take place and John Payne continued to carry on Asia with Downes uninterrupted. Wetton and Palmer did, however, get together to form Qango, which included Dave Kilminster and John Young, although the band was short-lived. Dave Kilminster went on to work with
Keith Emersonand Roger Waters. In 2000, Geffen/Universal released a best-of entitled "The Very Best Of Asia: Heat Of The Moment (1982-1990)" which also included three rare b-sides from the early days.
"Aura" (2001) took a more
progressive rockform, but still did not recapture the commercial success of the first album. Former members Howe, Thrall, Sturgis and guitarist Elliot Randall all made guest appearances. The single "Ready To Go Home" was barely distributed. Asia then signed with Recognition. 2001 did see the band with a stable lineup, achieved during the "Aura" sessions featuring Downes, Payne, guitarist Guthrie Govanand ex- Manfred Mann's Earth Band/The Firm/ Uriah Heep/ Gary Numan/ AC/DCdrummer Chris Slade(who had first joined Asia in 1999, briefly). Asia would tour for the first time since 1994, including the first US dates since 1993. A live album and DVD "Asia: Live In The USA" was released in 2003, recorded at the Classic Rock Festival in Trenton, NJ in October 2002 which they co-headlined with Uriah Heep.
In the summer of 2003, Downes and Payne did the "Asia Across America Tour" which got some national media attention. Performing "unplugged", the duo would reportedly play anywhere in the US that fans requested, provided there was a venue and the fans put up $3,000 to cover costs. From New Jersey to Alaska gigs took place and the fans were treated to "meet and greet" sessions after each show as well and given a rare chance to see Downes in an intimate setting.
Marking a departure from convention, for the first time, a studio release was not titled as a single word starting and ending with the letter A. Released on Asia's newly signed label SPV/Inside Out Records, 2004's "Silent Nation" (name influenced by the
Howard Sternvs. FCCincident) picked up some unexpected exposure on the Internet.
In 2004 an acoustic Asia toured featuring only Downes and Payne. In 2005 the full band toured in Europe and the Americas playing settings ranging from small clubs to medium-sized theatres. Again, in the US, attendance was poor at best. Meanwhile, Wetton and Downes released some archival Asia material under the name Wetton/Downes and they then reunited to record a full-length album ("Icon", released in 2005), and an accompanying EP and DVD.
In August 2005, Chris Slade left the group to be replaced by
Jay Schellen. The new band started work on an album, tentatively entitled "Architect of Time", which was originally planned for release in 2006, though later developments would cause this project to be shelved for the time being.
In early 2006, the partnership between Downes and Payne was dissolved when Downes left for a reunion of the original band line-up under the Asia name - a breakup which Payne describes as "painful" [http://www.theasiaband.com/2008/06/03/scranton-pocono-500-fanfest-interview-with-john/#more-52 Asia featuring John Payne » Blog Archive » Scranton Pocono 500 Fanfest Interview with John ] ] . The existing line-up (minus Downes) continued for a short while before morphing into GPS. Payne, Govan and Schellen subsequently launched the Asia Featuring John Payne name in 2007 with a new line-up. The official websites of each band reflect a split between the shared history of Payne's tenure with the band, as the reunited Asia acknowledge only pre- and post-Payne albums, whereas "Asia Featuring John Payne" claim Payne-era albums "Aqua" through "Silent Nation" as part of their own discography. Although Asia's live set lists reflect this, Asia Featuring John Payne has stated that they will perform songs from the entire history of Asia.
The Four Original Members of Asia
Geoff Downes and the other three original members (Wetton, Palmer, and Howe) convened a group meeting in England in early 2006 in anticipation of formally reforming for work that year. And after a slew of rumours, they announced that this original line-up of Asia were planning a CD, DVD and world tour to celebrate the band's 25th anniversary. The band appeared in October 2006 on U.S. cable channel VH-1 Classic and began a world tour largely focused on the U.S. The band secured ownership of the Asia name and toured under the description of the Four Original Members of Asia. The setlist featured most of the first album as well as a couple of songs from the second, along with one selection each from Yes, ELP, King Crimson and the Buggles to acknowledge the history of each member of the band.
The tour began on Aug. 31st, 2006 in Atlantic City, NJ. "The Definitive Collection" was released by Geffen/Universal to tie into the tour in September and peaked at #183 on the US album charts--—the first time Asia had made the charts since 1990. A limited edition release available only at Best Buy stores also included a DVD of all the band's music videos.
The reunion tour continued into 2007 with venue size based on the success of the 2006 shows where the band was mainly playing in clubs and theatres, many of which sold out, including all 7 dates in Japan. Also in 2007, the band released "Fantasia: Live In Tokyo" on CD and DVD through Eagle Records, commemorating the 25th Anniversary and documenting the success of the 2006-2007 tour.
In mid-2007, all four original members (Wetton, Downes, Howe and Palmer) went into the studio to record a new album, marking the first recorded material from all four original members since 1983's "Alpha".cite web|url=http://www.originalasia.com/images/press%20release%20-%20november%2026th%20-%20fan.pdf|format=
Frontiers Recordson 14 April 2008 (via EMI/Capitol on April 15 in North America [cite web|url=http://originalasia.com/images//emi%20press%20release.pdf|format= album coverfeatures Roger Dean's illustrationand design. The Phoenix album did well in both the American and European/Japanese markets. It debuted at #73 on the American Billboard pop Charts; the band had not charted with a studio album since 1985.
Asia Featuring John Payne
Payne, Govan and Schellen continued working together after Downes' departure for the aforementioned reunion. This included continuing work on what had been planned as the next Asia album, "Architect of Time". They began to work under the name GPS with
Ryo Okumotoof Spock's Beardon keys. Their debut release, "Window to the Soul" (2006), included material developed for "Architect of Time". [cite web|url=http://www.dingwall.jp/artist/gps/interview.html Interview with John Payne|publisher=Dingwall Music Inc.|title=John Payne & Guthrie Govan Interview|date=April 3rd, 2007]
In May 2007, Payne, Govan and Schellen announced the new band name, "Asia Featuring John Payne", adding
Erik Norlanderon keys. The first release under this name at the end of 2007 was a live recording of the late 2005 Asia line-up of Downes, Payne, Govan and Schellen, entitled "Extended Versions" in the US and "Scandinavia" in the UK.
In June 2008, the band has announced the release of an EP entitled "Military Man" with a royalties being donated to the
USO[ [http://www.theasiaband.com/2008/06/26/military-man-uso-cd-ep-to-be-released/ Asia featuring John Payne » Blog Archive » “Military Man” USO CD EP To Be Released ] ] . The band is also planning to release a completed "Architect of Time" [ [http://www.theasiaband.com/2007/11/20/new-keyboardist-joins-asia-featuring-john-payne/ New Keyboardist Joins “Asia Featuring John Payne”] ] , with all songs written by Payne and Norlander. The band is touring in 2008 under the Asia Featuring John Payne name, and currently playing festivals and small venues, performing songs from the entire history of Asia, including "Heat of the Moment". Meanwhile, Payne, Govan, and Schellen are also continuing work as GPS, while Schellen is also recording with CIRCA:. [ [http://www.theasiaband.com/2008/07/31/jay-schellen-to-perform-on-circa-cd Jay Schellen to Perform on Circa CD] ]
Many musicians participated through the years, especially during the 1990s, when the band consisted essentially of Geoff Downes and John Payne plus an ever-changing set of guests.
Current Members of "Asia" are:
Geoff Downes- keyboards, backing vocals (former member of Yes and The Buggles) - founding member
John Wetton- lead vocals, bass, guitar(former member of King Crimson, UK, Uriah Heep , Roxy Musicand Family) - founding member
*Steve Howe - guitar,
mandolin, backing vocals (also a member of Yes and GTR) - founding member
Carl Palmer- drums, percussion (former member of Emerson, Lake and Palmer) - founding member
Current members of "Asia Featuring John Payne" are:
*John Payne - lead vocals, bass, guitar (also in GPS)
Guthrie Govan- guitar (also in GPS)
Jay Schellen- drums and percussion (also in GPS)
Erik Norlander- keyboards
Previous members of "Asia" are:
*John Payne - lead vocals, bass, guitar (now in GPS and "Asia Featuring John Payne")
Guthrie Govan- guitar , backing vocals (now in GPS and "Asia Featuring John Payne")
Jay Schellen- drums, percussion (former member of Hurricane, World Trade and Conspiracy, now in GPS and "Asia Featuring John Payne")
Greg Lake- lead vocals, bass (former member of King Crimsonand Emerson, Lake and Palmer). Heard on "Asia in Asia" and "Heat of the Moment" (live) is on Lake's "From the Underground... the Official Bootleg" album (1998).
Mandy Meyer- guitar, backing vocals
Pat Thrall- guitar, backing vocals
Al Pitrelli- guitar (former member of Savatageand Megadethand current member of Trans-Siberian Orchestra)
Mike Sturgis- drums, percussion (former member of 21 Guns, later a member of Wishbone Ash, The Untouchables and Psycho Motel)
John Young- keyboards, backing vocals
Alan Darby- guitar
Zoe Nicholas- backing vocals
Susie Webb- backing vocals
Vinny Burns- guitar, backing vocals
Trevor Thornton- drums
Keith More- guitar, backing vocals
Aziz Ibrahim- guitar, backing vocals
Holger Larish- guitar
Bob Richards- drums
Ian Crichton- guitar
Chris Slade- drums, percussion (former member of AC/DC, Uriah Heep, and The Firm)
Certain musicians have joined and left after a short time without recording any studio material with the group. The most notable collaboration of this kind was the participation of
Greg Lakein the "Asia in Asia" concert in bass guitar and lead vocals. Yet more musicians have played as session or guest artists without formally joining Asia. Some of these names include: Simon Phillips, Steve Lukather, Elliot Randall, Luis Jardim, Ant Glynne, Tomoyasu Hotei, Ron Komie, Scott Gorham, Tony Levinand Vinnie Colaiuta.
*Although Asia has not recaptured the success from the early Eighties in its later years, the band's legacy endures, and occasionally Asia references are found in the media. Some of these references are not altogether flattering. The
Mystery Science Theater 3000episode " Overdrawn at the Memory Bank" features Professor Bobo (played by Kevin W. Murphy) singing part of verse two from "Heat of the Moment". In addition, the doorbell of the Satellite of Love plays the intro to "Only Time Will Tell."
*In an episode of the animated TV series "
South Park", Eric Cartmanand the United States Congress sing " Heat Of The Moment" a cappella.
*In the Supernatural episode "Mystery Spot",
Sam Winchesteris reliving a day over and over again. Every time he wakes up to relive the day, the song playing on the radio that wakes him up is "Heat of the Moment". Dean tells him to admit that he loves the song. He says he'll kill himself if he ever hears it again, and Dean proceeds to dance around and lip sync to it.
*Asia's hits and some deep tracks from the debut can be heard today on various classic rock stations around the world and on Satellite radio like XM's channels 46 and 8. In 2005, DJ Manian's dance remix of "Heat Of The Moment" was released to nightclubs.
*"Heat of the Moment" is also featured in the film "
The Matador" in the scene in which Pierce Brosnan's character must commit an assassination at a horse race. Since horse races are run in "heats," this usage could be considered a musical pun.
*In reference to Korean scientists successfully cloning an Afghan hound,
Comedy Central's " the Colbert Report" held a special "Bring 'em Back or Leave 'em Dead: Asian Edition" offering the studio audience the chance to decide which deceased Asians should be brought back to life. After clamouring to bring back military strategist Sun Tzuand China's first emperor Qin Shi Huang, the studio audience decided to leave the 80's super group Asia dead.
THXcertified videos play a distinctive audio logo called Deep Note, which was recorded in 1983. Apart from a slight difference in key, it is identical to the synthesized crescendo played during the intro to "Countdown to Zero" on the 1985 album "Astra".
* A cover of the song "Heat Of The Moment" is playable in the Playstation 2 game "".
* In the film "
The 40 Year-Old Virgin", main character Andy Stitzer is mocked for having a framed Asia poster in his apartment. Also, " Heat Of The Moment" is played during the scene in which Andy chases Trish's car after she leaves his home.
* In the Mexican Soap Opera "
Alcanzar una Estrella" (1991) starring singers " Ricky Martin" and " Sasha" the intros of all four new songs from the album Then and Now were used at the closing of each scene before a commercial break.
* The song Lay Down Your Arms was used by the animated film "
Freddie the Frog" (1992) starring " Ben Kingsley", " Jenny Agutter" and " Brian Blessed". On 5/21/2007 AOl.com claimed that this film is the lowest grossing animated movie of all time. ($1.19 million).
Qango (band)- spin-off band
GPS (band)- spin-off band
Roger Dean (artist)- graphic artist, responsible for most of the Asia and Yes album covers.
Rodney Matthews- fantasy artist responsible for some of the album covers during the 1990s.
* [http://www.originalasia.com/ Asia Reunion] - Official site
* [http://www.theasiaband.com/ Asia Featuring John Payne] - Official site
* [http://www.myspace.com/originalasia Asia Reunion - Official Myspace site]
* [http://www.myspace.com/asiafeaturingjohnpayne Asia featuring John Payne - Official MySpace site]
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