- Tim Rose
Infobox Musical artist
Name = Tim Rose
Img_capt = Front cover of Rose's 1977 album, "The Gambler"
Img_size =
Background = solo_singer
Birth_name = Timothy Alan Patrick Rose
Alias = Timothy Rose
Born = birth date|1940|September|23Washington, D.C. ,United States
Died = death date and age|2002|09|24|1940|09|23London ,United Kingdom
Origin =Greenwich Village , New York City NY, US
Instrument =Guitar ,singing ,spoken word ,banjo
Voice_type = Dramatic tenor, gravelly
Genre = Rock, folk,blues
Occupation =Singer-songwriter
Years_active = 1961?–1978, 1986–2002
(plus posthumous releases)
Label = CBS/Columbia, FM, Capitol, Dawn/Playboy, Atlantic, Phonogram, President, See for Miles, Best Dressed, Mystic, Love Label, Cherry Red, Market Square
Associated_acts = The Big 3, Tim Rose and the Thorns, The Singing Strings, Headwaiter
URL = [http://Tim-Rose.co.uk Tim-Rose.co.uk]
Notable_instruments =Timothy Alan Patrick Rose (
September 23 ,1940 –September 24 ,2002 ),Cite web
title=Tim Rose Biography
url=http://www.mathie.demon.co.uk/tr/biograph.html
month=March | year=2005
first=Brian
last=Mathieson
location=Hamilton, Scotland (unofficial website by long-term correspondent of Rose's)] best known professionally as Tim Rose, was an American singer-songwriter, who spent much of his life inLondon, England and had more success inEurope than in his native country. Known for his gruff voice, Rose was often compared toRay Charles ,Rod Stewart andJoe Cocker .Early years
Tim Rose was born in
Washington, DC , and raised by his mother Mary, who worked for the Army Corps of Engineers, his aunt, and his grandmother in an area known as South Fairlington Historic District, inArlington, Virginia , where he was to meetScott McKenzie , who lived nearby. Rose learned to play thebanjo andguitar , and won the top music award in high school. He trained for the priesthood, but was thrown out of theseminary for inappropriate behavior ("I realized I wasn't going to be the Pope", he said later, "and if you can't be the boss, why join the company?").Citequote|date=January 2008 Rose graduated from Gonzaga College Prep School, a notedJesuit institution in DC, class of 1958. From there he joined theUnited States Air Force (in theStrategic Air Command ), in the pre-Vietnam era, and was stationed inKansas .Clarifyme|subst:DATE|date=March 2008 He later worked as amerchant marine on the S.S. "Atlantic" and in a bank, before becoming involved in the music business.His first band was The Singing Strings, which included his friend McKenzie, who later joined with John Phillips (eventually of
The Mamas & the Papas ) in a local group called The Abstracts, later The Smoothies and eventually The Journeymen. Other members of the Strings were Buck Hunnicutt, Speery Romig and Alan Stubbs. In 1962, Rose teamed up with ex-SmoothieMichael Boran as Michael and Timothy.Jake Holmes ,Rich Husson and Rose formed a group called The Feldmans, later known as Tim Rose and the Thorns.The Big 3
Later still,Clarifyme|date=January 2008 Rose met singer
Cass Elliot , also eventually ofThe Mamas and the Papas , at a party in Georgetown, DC, and formed a folk trio with her and James (Jim) Hendricks initially called The Triumvirate, and later The Big 3. They soon landed a job atThe Bitter End , a well-known folk club in New York'sGreenwich Village , along withCafe Wha? ,The Night Owl , andThe Gaslight Cafe , along with many musicians who lived at the nearby Albert Hotel. Rose described Cass Elliot as the funniest and most talented person he ever met.Their success grew, with appearances on national TV shows, and they recorded two albums: "The Big 3" (1963) and "The Big 3 Live at the Recording Studio" (1964). Songs included "Grandfather's Clock" and an anti-war dirge "Come Away Melinda" (a re-recorded version of which was one of Rose's most successful solo singles several years later). Rose and Elliot had musical differences – both were inclined to want things done their way – and the band fell apart after Elliot and Hendricks secretly married. They had appeared on 26 national television shows, including "
Hootenanny " (1963), "The Danny Kaye Show " (1963), and "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson " (1962). Rose told stories about arguing with Elliot over music saying it would always end her way "because, you know a big woman is never wrong!" Years later in the 1980s when Rose was looking for a singer to produce, Elliot was his model, but he never found anyone quite like her.olo career
After The Big Three, Rose went solo, and by 1966, his prospects had improved. In November of that year, he played two gigs at the famous Fillmore Auditorium in San Francisco; headlining were the
Grateful Dead andJefferson Airplane .CBS Records signed Tim to a multi-album record deal; the first album, "Tim Rose", came out in 1967. It featured a new version of "Come Away Melinda" and "Long Time Man" (a version of the traditional "It Makes a Long Time Man Feel Bad", which was also previously recorded with The Big 3) as well as his versions of two songs that would become standards:Billy Roberts ' "Hey Joe " andBonnie Dobson 's "Morning Dew ". Both were released as singles, and covered by many artists, fromThe Grateful Dead toClannad . Backed up by a trio that includedWilliam Lewis Wexler on keyboards and flute, he playedBasin Street West in San Francisco andL'Hibou inOttawa, Ontario . He also played on numerous recording sessions, including backing upEric Weissberg .The album was moderately successful but there was no big breakthrough for Rose, who later concluded that the mix of blues, folk and rock made it impossible for the record company to market it.
"Hey Joe"
In 1966, he was getting a lot of airplay with his single of "Hey Joe". The origins of the song are disputed. It was
copyright ed in 1962 by singerBilly Roberts , but Rose claimed he heard it sung as a child in Florida, and as of 2007, Rose's website still claims the song is "traditional". Prior to Rose's recording,The Leaves ,The Surfaris , Love andThe Byrds had all recorded fast-paced versions of the song. Tim's version (crediting himself as author), unlike the others, was a slow, angry ballad, which received US radio airplay and became a regional hit in the San Francisco area in 1966.Jimi Hendrix had seen Rose performing at Cafe Wha? in New York City, and released a similarly slow version in 1967 which became a huge hit, first in the UK, then worldwide. Tim always regarded the Hendrix version as a copy of his, and regretted not having been cut in on the royalties of the song, which would have been substantial if he were the actual composer. Simon Dee, a pirate disc jockey, broke the story in England.Rose re-recorded "Hey Joe" in the 1990s, re-titling it "Blue Steel .44" and again claiming songwriting credit.
"Morning Dew"
"Morning Dew" was to go on to become a rock standard. Tim heard
Fred Neil singing a version of the song penned by Canadian folk singerBonnie Dobson , arranged it with a harder, rock feel and added his name to the writing credit. This time he managed to legally get a royalty, due to aloophole in US copyright law.Clarifyme|date=January 2008 Although Dobson consistently questioned his right to a credit, it is unlikely that without Rose's version the song would have become the classic it did, covered by theGrateful Dead , TheJeff Beck Group,Robert Plant ,Einstürzende Neubauten , and many others.Followup works
Another CBS album, "Through Rose Colored Glasses", followed in 1969. It met with critical disappointment and did not sell well. "Love: A Kind of Hate Story" was recorded at Island Studios in London and released in 1970. In addition to his musical career, by now Rose had moved to
London and would spend much of his life there. Other albums followed in the decade: Another, different album titled "Tim Rose" (1974), "The Musician" (1975), and the bootleg "Unfinished Song" (1976). The master tapes for the short "Unfinished Song" were stolen and sold to a small record company who released the album without Rose's permission and without paying him any royalties.In the early 1960s Columbia records chose between Rose and Dylan to promote, and despite the fact that Tim was prominent in the singer/songwriter period in Greenwich Village,Clarifyme|date=January 2008 Dylan received the deal. At one point Tim was offered to record Dylan's "
Don't Think Twice It's Alright ", but turned it down.In 1968, while his song "Roanoke" was getting some airplay in the UK, Rose was considered while replacements were being selected for
Brian Jones 's place inThe Rolling Stones .Tim worked in the late 1960s and 1970s with sidemen
Bob Bowers ,Felix Pappalardi ,Alan Seidler ,Tina Charles ,Pierre Tubbs ,B. J. Coles ,Michael Winn ,Colin Winston-Fletcher ,Micky Wynne ,John Bonham ,Aynsley Dunbar ,Alex Damovsky ,John McVie ,Andy Summers ,Eric Weissberg ,Russ Kunkel ,Randall Elliot , andPete Seers , and appeared on bills withTraffic ,Stevie Wonder ,Simon and Garfunkel ,The Doors ,Uriah Heep ,Johnny Mathis ,Frank Zappa ,Jimi Hendrix ,Jeff Beck ,Rod Stewart ,Procol Harum ,The Grateful Dead ,Jimmy Page ,Robert Plant ,The Band of Joy ,Tim Hardin ,William Lewis Wexler , and many more.At one time,
George Harrison ofThe Beatles was to produce an album for Rose, though this did not ultimately happen.The lost years
By the late 1970s, his career had stalled. He recorded "The Gambler" in 1977, with a group that included guitarist
Andy Summers , only to find that the record company refused to release it. He returned to New York for a number of years, living inHell's Kitchen onRestaurant Row , and then much laterLincoln Square nearCentral Park .facts|date=January 2008 Having lost his contacts in the music industry, he was forced to work as a construction laborer until an opportunity arose to singjingle s for TV commercials in early 1980. Rose sang on many jingles, includingBig Red Gum andWrangler Jeans , and voiced ads for theBig Apple Circus . This work funded his much-delayed college education, which he began at the age of 40. Rose graduated in 1984 fromFordham University atLincoln Center inManhattan , with a degree in history.Facts|date=January 2008 He became aWall Street stockbroker and a teacher, got married, and eventually divorced. After the 1987stock market crash, he got out of the business. He continued writing and performing at select venues, such asThe Bitter End . He battled withalcoholism and these years were often not happy ones.Return
By the late 1980s, Rose had reached the lowest point in his career. After his marriage broke up, he gave up drinking. In 1986,
Nick Cave included "Long Time Man", a version very close to Rose's, on the album "Your Funeral, My Trial ". According to Rose, Cave had initially been under the impression that Rose had died years before.Facts|date=January 2008 However, Cave went on to assist Rose in recovering his career, and encouraged him to play live shows again.By the 1990s, things were beginning to look up. In 1991, "The Gambler" was finally released. In 1996, encouraged by Cave and by Dutch film makers Suzan Ijermanns and Jacques Laureys, he returned to Europe and played a small but well-regarded gig at the Half Moon,
Putney . Rose later performed at theGuildford Festival , and theGlastonbury Festival as well.Facts|date=January 2008 He went on to perform at theRoyal Albert Hall opening for Cave, and at the Shepherds Bush Empire andQueen Elizabeth Hall in London with co-writer and guitarist Mickey Wynne.Fact|date=January 2008 A new album, "Haunted", was released with recordings from these performances as well new studio material produced by Cave. He also appeared on theBBC show "Later with Jools Holland ", and performed withLed Zeppelin erRobert Plant 's folk-rock band,Priory of Brion .facts|date=January 2008 By the late 1990s to early 2000s, most of his back catalog had been re-released (some as double albums), and were available both in record stores and from Tim's own web site, Tim-Rose.co.uk.Cite web
title="Music" and "Shop"
work=The Official Tim Rose Website
last=Rose
first=Tim
coauthors=unspecified assistants
year=2007
accessdate=2008-01-15
url=http://tim-rose.co.uk]in the same year. His final solo album, "American Son", was released in February 2002 to some acclaim, but again not very many sales.
The CD "Not Goin' Anywhere" by Norwegian band
Headwaiter , featuring four songs with lyrics by Tim Rose and a duet with the lead singer Per Jorgenson, was released in Norway in September 2002.Death
In 2002, Rose had completed a successful tour of
Ireland and had a number of gigs planned around the UK. He died at Middlesex Hospital,London of aheart attack during a second operation for a lower bowel problem onSeptember 24 ,2002 at age 62. He is buried inBrompton Cemetery , London.He had no children. A number of recordings featuring Tim were released after his death.
Discography
Albums
*"The Big Three", 1963
*"The Big Three Live at the Recording Studio", 1964
*"Tim Rose", 1967
*"Through Rose Colored Glasses", 1969
*"Love - A Kind of Hate Story", 1970
*"Tim Rose", 1974
*"The Musician", 1975
*"Unfinished Song", 1976
*"The Gambler", 1977 / 1991
*"I've Got To Get A Message To You", 1987
*"Haunted", 1997
*"American Son", 2002
*"Not goin' anywhere", 2002 [Headwaiter]
*"Snowed In", 2003
*"The London Sessions 1978 - 1998", 2004
*"Mirage", 2004ingles
*1966 - "I'm Bringing it Home / Mother, Father, Where are You"?
*1966 - "Hey Joe / King Lonely the Blue"
*1966 - "I Gotta do Things My Way / Where Was I?"
*1967 - "I'm Gonna Be Strong / I Got a Loneliness"
*1967 - "Morning Dew / You're Slipping Away from Me"
*1967 - "Long Time Man / I Got a Loneliness"
*1967 - "Come Away Melinda / unknown"
*1968 - "Long Haired Boy / Looking at a Baby"
*1968 - "I Guess it's Over / Hello Sunshine"
*1969 - "Roanoke / Baby Do You Turn Me On"
*1970 - "I Gotta Get a Message to You / Ode to an Old Ball"
*1972 - "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away / If I Were a Carpenter"
*1973 - "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away / It Takes a Little Longer"
*1975 - "The Musician / 7:30 Song"
*1975 - "The Musician / It's Not My Life That's Been Changin' "
*1975 - "Morning Dew / 7:30 Song"
*1979 - Tim guested on the single "Boys On The Dole" by punk band Neville Wanker and the Punters.References
* [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879306416 "American Troubadours: Groundbreaking Singer-Songwriters of the 60s" by Mark Brend]
* [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390623/ "Where Was I?" documentary film by Jacques Laureys]External links
* [http://tim-rose.co.uk The Official Tim Rose Website]
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