- 8x64mm S
Infobox Firearm Cartridge
name=8x64mm S
caption=
origin= flagcountry|German Empire
type= Rifle
service= Never issued
used_by=
wars=
designer=Wilhelm Brenneke
design_date=1912
manufacturer=
production_date=1912 - present
number=
variants=8x65mm RS (rimmed)
is_SI_specs=yes
bwunit=gram
parent=None
case_type=Rimless, bottleneck
bullet=8.20
neck=8.96
shoulder=10.85
base=11.95
rim_dia=12.00
rim_thick=1.30
case_length=64.00
length=87.50
case_capacity=4.51
rifling=240 mm (1-9.449")
primer=Large rifle
max_pressure=405
is_SI_ballistics=yes
bw1=12.7
btype1=S&B SPCE
vel1=810
en1=4166
bw2=12.7
btype2=S&B HPC
vel2=815
en2=4218
bw3=12.8
btype3=Brenneke TIG
vel3=841
en3=4537
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test_barrel_length=600 mm (23.62 in)The 8x64mm S (also unofficially known as the 8x64mm S Brenneke) (the S means it is intended for 8.2 mm (.323 in) groove diameter bullets) is a rimless bottlenecked
centerfire cartridge developed as a military service round for the German Army who never issued it. As is customary in European cartridges the 8 denotes the 8 mm bullet caliber and the 64 denotes the 64 mm (2.52 in) case length. The 8x64mm is a hunting cartridge in central Europe and can due to its 87.5 mm (3.445 in) overall length easily be chambered in standard sizedMauser 98 bolt action rifles.History
At the start of the 20th century the famous German gun and ammunition designer
Wilhelm Brenneke (1865–1951) was lengthening standard cartridge cases like the M/88 cartridge case, then used by the German military in their Mauser 98 rifles, to obtain extra muzzle velocity.In 1912 Brenneke designed the 8x64mm S cartridge. It was intended as a ballistic upgrade option for the Mauser
Gewehr 98 rifles that were then standard issue in the German military. Brenneke hoped that he could achieve a major succes with this round designed in an age when military doctrine expected rifle shots at ranges up to 800 to 1000 m (875 to 1094 yards). The German military chose however to stick to their8x57mm IS rifle cartridge avoiding rechambering their service rifles for a larger and heavier cartridge that due to its more favourable bore area to case volume ratio ballistically slightly outperforms the.30-06 Springfield cartridge introduced by theUnited States Army in 1906.Commercially the 8x64mm S was after an initial success phase in the period between the
World Wars rather unsuccessful. Brenneke’s engineering concept to lengthen the 57 mm (2.244 in) long M/88 cartridge case to create new for those days very powerful cartridges was essentially sound and he persisted in the development of new cartridges like the commercially successful7x64mm along this line.The 8x64mm S offered compared to the
8x57mm IS about 2 to 5 % extra muzzle velocity. This results in a flatter trajectory and better performance at longer range.Beside the 8x64mm S rifle cartridge Brenneke also designed a rimmed version for break action rifles of the cartridge. The rimmed 8x65 mm RS variant of the cartridge was also commercially rather unsuccessful.
8x64mm
This cartridge also exists in a 8x64mm variant (without the S or any other further additions) intended for a different bullet diameter. Rifles chambered for the 8x64mm sport the earlier tighter 8.07 mm (.318 in) I-bore as found in the 8x57mm I.
"To avoid potentially serious accidents, it is important to distinguish clearly between cartridges loaded for these two different bullet diameters, and only fire them in appropriately chambered/barrelled rifles."
Cartridge dimensions
The 8x64mm S has 4.51 ml (69.5 grains) H2O cartridge case capacity. A sign of the era in which the 8x64mm S was developed are the gently sloped shoulders. The exterior shape of the case was designed to promote reliable case feeding and extraction in bolt-action rifles, under extreme conditions.
8x64mm S maximum C.I.P. cartridge dimensions. All sizes in millimeters (mm).
Americans would define the shoulder angle at alpha/2 ≈ 14 degrees. The common
rifling twist rate for this cartridge is 240 mm (1 in 9.45 in), 4 grooves, Ø lands = 7.89 mm, Ø grooves = 8.20 mm, land width = 4.40 mm and the primer type is large rifle or large rifle magnum depending on the load.]According to the official with
C.I.P. (Commission Internationale Permanente pour l'Epreuve des Armes à Feu Portatives ) guidelines the 8x64mm S case can handle up to 405 MPa (58740 psi) piezo pressure. In C.I.P. regulated countries every rifle cartridge combo has to be proofed at 125% of this maximum C.I.P. pressure to certify for sale to consumers.The American
8mm-06 wildcat cartridge (in European nomenclature the 8mm-06 would be termed as 8x63mm S) is probably the closest ballistic twin of the 8x64mm S. This is a necked up.30-06 Springfield wildcat made to accept 8 mm (.323 in) bullets. This modification was performed to German Mauser 98 rifles in the US to facilitate the use of a in the US commonly available cartridge case, since the German8x57mm IS cartridge was not readily available in the US when troops brought German Mauser rifles home as warsouvenirs afterWW II .Contemporary use
The 8x64mm S is offered as a chambering option in some European hunting rifle manufacturer’s products palette. The 8x64mm S performance lies between the commercially important
8x57mm IS standard cartridge and the8x68mm S magnum cartridge making it suitable for hunting all kinds of European game. In the year 2001 the Brenneke Company tried to revive the 8x64mm S cartridge by offering it loaded with 12.8 gram Brenneke Torpedo Ideal Geschoß (TIG) hunting bullets. Sellier & Bellot and Brenneke are currently (2007) the only ammunition manufacturers offering 8x64mm S factory loads. Loaded with short light bullets it can be used on small European game likeroe deer andchamois . Loaded with long heavy bullets it can be used on big European game likeboar ,red deer ,moose andbrown bear . The 8x64mm S offers very good penetrating ability due to a fasttwist rate that enables it to fire long, heavy bullets with a highsectional density . The 8x64mm S can be used in countries which ban civil use of former or current military ammunition. The 8x64mm S rimmed sister cartridge, the 8x65mm RS, is also not popular in central Europe for the same reasons as the 8x64mm S.8 mm cartridges compared
Maximum muzzle velocity comparison in % of the probably most proliferated European and American 8 mm rifle cartridges out of 650 mm (25.59 in) long barrels loaded with relatively light to heavy 8 mm bullets to their
C.I.P. orSAAMI (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute) sanctioned maximum pressures.This comparison is not totally objective since the
8 mm Remington Magnum and.325 WSM operate at 448.16 MPa (65000 psi), the8x68mm S at 440 MPa (63817 psi), the 8x64mm S at 405 MPa (58740 psi) and the7.92x57mm Mauser at 390 MPa (56564 psi) maximum chamber pressure. Higher chamber pressure results in higher muzzle velocities.ee also
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List of rifle cartridges
* 8 mm bullet calibreReferences
* [http://www.brenneke.de/web/text/8x64.pdf Die Patrone 8x64mm S Brenneke erobert sich wieder ihre Nische, DWJ (Deutsches Waffen Journal) 11/2002]
* C.I.P. CD-ROM edition 2003
* C.I.P. decisions, texts and tables ( [http://www.cip-bp.org/index.php?id=tdcc-telechargement free current C.I.P. CD-ROM version download (ZIP and RAR format)] )External links
* [http://www.brenneke.de/ Homepage of the Brenneke Company]
* [http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/ Homepage of Sellier & Bellot]
* [http://www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/Patronen/8x64S.htm Lutz Möller's webpage on the 8x64mm S and 8x65mm RS (including images)]
* [http://www.reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=364 8x64S Brenneke at www.reloadersnest.com]
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