Sunrise problem

Sunrise problem

The sunrise problem can be expressed as follows: "What is the probability that the sun will rise tomorrow?"

The sunrise problem illustrates the difficulty of using probability theory when evaluating the plausibility of statements or beliefs.

According to the Bayesian interpretation of probability, probability theory can be used to evaluate the plausibility of the statement, "The sun will rise tomorrow." We just need a hypothetical random process that determines the fact that the sun will rise tomorrow or not. Based on past observations, we can infer the parameters of this random process, and from there evaluate the probability that the sun will rise tomorrow.

One sun, many days

The sunrise problem was first introduced in the 18th century by Pierre-Simon Laplace, who treated it by means of his rule of succession. Let "p" be the long-run frequency of sunrises, i.e., the sun rises on 100 × "p"% of days. "Prior" to knowing of any sunrises, one is completely ignorant of the value of "p". Laplace represented this prior ignorance by means of a uniform probability distribution on "p". Thus the probability that "p" is between 20% and 50% is just 30%. This must not be interpreted to mean that in 30% of all cases, "p" is between 20% and 50%; that would be a frequentist approach to applied probability. Rather, it means that one's state of knowledge (or ignorance) justifies one in being 30% sure that the sun rises between 20% of the time and 50% of the time. "Given" the value of "p", and no other information relevant to the question of whether the sun will rise tomorrow, the probability that the sun will rise tomorrow is "p". But we are "not" "given the value of "p". What we are given is the observed data: the sun has risen every day on record. Laplace inferred the number of days by saying that the universe was created about 6000 years ago, based on a literal reading of the Bible. To find the conditional probability distribution of "p" given the data, one uses Bayes theorem, which some call the "Bayes-Laplace rule". Having found the conditional probability distribution of "p" given the data, one may then calculate the conditional probability, given the data, that the sun will rise tomorrow. That conditional probability is given by the rule of succession. The plausibility that the sun will rise tomorrow increases with the number of days on which the sun has risen so far.

Laplace, however, recognised this to be a misapplication of the rule of succession through not taking into account all the prior information available immediately after deriving the result:

It is noted by Jaynes (2003) that Laplace's warning had gone unheeded by workers in the field.

A reference class problem arises: the plausibility inferred will depend on whether we take the past experience of one person, of humanity, or of the earth. A consequence is that each referent would hold different plausibility of the statement. In Bayesianism, any probability is a conditional probability given what one knows. That varies from one person to another.

One day, many suns

Alternatively, we could say that a sun is selected from all the possible stars every day, and it is the one that we see in the morning. The plausibility of the "sun will rise tomorrow" will then be the proportion of stars that "die", e.g. by becoming a nova.

We face a similar reference class problem: which sample of stars should we use. All the stars? The stars with the same age as our sun? The same size?

Our knowledge of star formations will naturally lead us to select the stars of same age and size to resolve this problem. In other cases, our lack of knowledge of the underlying random process makes the use of bayesian reasoning more difficult.

See also

* Doomsday argument: a similar problem that raises intense philosophical debate


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