David DeAngelo

Eben W. Pagan, [ [http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/david-deangelo/ Who Is David Deangelo?] ] better known by his stage name David DeAngelo, is an American entrepreneur, author and dating consultant. He is a member of the American Seduction community [http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/category/seduction-masters-interview/ Seduction Guru Interviews] ] [ [http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=20957 American Chronicle] ] and founder of "Double Your Dating", a company providing dating advice to men and marketed primarily over the Internet. Within the community he has been referred to as a guru.

Background

Early in his career, DeAngelo moved from the Pacific Northwest to continue his career as a real estate and mortgage broker in San Diego [http://www.sidneyrezende.com/noticia/13720] , but first found real success in training real estate professionals how to use direct marketing to build sales leads. While building this business, DeAngelo set out to build his skills at meeting women through a number of avenues, including seeking the counsel of "naturals" (men who are naturally good with women) and students of women such as Hypnotica (Eric Von Sydow) Steve Piccus, Dave Riker, Rick H, and as a protégé of Ross Jeffries. During this period, DeAngelo went by the on-line nickname "Sisonpyh"Fact|date=March 2008 ("hypnosis" spelled backwards, invoking the NLP emphasis of Jeffries' teachings), and the offline handle "Brother Eben"Fact|date=March 2008. For reasons which are in dispute, DeAngelo eventually disassociated himself from Jeffries and his teachingsFact|date=March 2008, and on December 17, 2000 propounded his own schema in a seminal post on "Cliff's List," an internet dating newsletter. [ [http://www.cliffslist.com/ Cliff's List] . DeAngelo's December 17, 2000 post can be found [http://www.fastseduction.com/cliff/2000-12-17a.shtml here] .]

Finally switching to the handle "David DeAngelo" in 2001, he released an updated, expanded, and somewhat more politically-correct version of the post as the ebook "Double Your Dating," at the time the sole product of the eponymous company he ran by himself from the bedroom of his oceanside apartment in San Diego. Since then, DeAngelo has released many products aimed at helping men with dating, with titles such as the "Advanced Dating" series, "77 Laws of Success With Women and Dating", "Deep Inner Game", and "Meeting Women Online." DeAngelo claimed in July 2007 that he employs two hundred people, all working remotely, and that his various product lines ("Double Your Dating", "Catch Him & Keep Him", "GetAltitude", "Fire Your Wedding Planner", and others) now gross close to 20 million annually in sales.Fact|date=January 2008

DeAngelo runs an e-mail newsletter which is distributed to over 1 million subscribers. [Neil Strauss (2005) "The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists". New York, NY: HarperCollins. ISBN 0-06-055473-8]

Beliefs

DeAngelo argues that much human social behavior is related in some way to sexual reproduction, and that human mating habits do not differ significantly from other species.

He suggests that societal conditioning has programmed many modern men to develop involuntary habits that increase the failure rate of consistently attracting women or negate the attractive qualities that were designed to make women want them. "Pickup lines cause you to lose before you even begin" since they "don't usually elicit positive and rewardful responses; instead they breed negative reactions." [Ratliff, Ronnie. (December 30, 2001) The Daytona Beach News-Journal "Haven't I seen you before?" Section: News-Journal SECTION C; Page 03C.]

DeAngelo states in one of his advanced dating technique seminars that people can use his techniques to achieve a variety of goals, whether that goal is to have casual sex or to form more lasting relationships. [De Brito, Sam. (January 2, 2005) Sunday Telegraph (Australia). "Men can become simply irresistible." Section: Features; Page 124.] David DeAngelo, as a member of the Seduction Community as a whole, often comes under fire by women and men who advocate "just being yourself", but is just as strongly defended by his proponents who argue that these opinions are based on ignorance of his actual material. [ [http://attraction-chronicles.blogspot.com/2005/09/does-double-your-dating-by-david.html 'Does Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo help you succeed with women?'] ]

One of his beliefs is that being intellectual doesn't automatically equal success with women, but that such success can be acquired. [Edwards, Eric. (April 15, 2005) Orlando Sentinel " [http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/04/19/sections/life/lf_books/article_485901.php Dumb approach might be smart.] " Section: Calendar; Page 54.]

Advice on attraction

DeAngelo contends most men lack a deep understanding of women, and are thus at a loss to attract the ones they desire. As a result, men are forced to accept whomever selects them.

DeAngelo also believes that women are not as obsessed with the appearance of prospective mates as males are. [Edwards, Eric. (April 21, 2005) Chicago Tribune "Dumb approach may work for smart guys." Section: Tempo; Page 7.] Further, he contends that typical male courting gambits such as excessive flattery and gifting are seen by women as manipulative and insecure, and are thus ultimately unattractive. [Read, Genevieve. (September 22, 2004) The Mercury "Booking in for the hunt." Section: Local1; Page 22.] Instead, he contends that "attraction isn't a choice" -- women cannot be bribed into "choosing" to feel attraction. Rather, DeAngelo asserts that a woman will feel attraction automatically when she perceives a man to have certain characteristics such as confidence, lightheartedness, humor and independence, qualities he labels "cocky and funny" or "cocky funny." [ [http://media.www.thevarsity.ca/media/storage/paper285/news/2007/02/12/Feature/How-To.Pick.Up.Chicks.And.Influence.Them-2713041.shtml thevarsity.ca] ]

Thus, while a typical man might hope to appeal to a desirable woman with obsequiousness and unbridled enthusiasm, carefully hiding any reservations he might have about her, a "cocky and funny" one would actually make his reservations abundantly clear from the outset, albeit flirtatiously and with humor.

DeAngelo stresses that his recommendations are limited to advising men on how to present themselves more attractively in dating scenarios, and makes it clear that his advice is not necessarily relevant to ongoing relationships.

Used terms

*The Inner Wuss: a character trait of men developed through time that causes them to become submissive around women in order to get their approval. DeAngelo claims that women prefer men who are of higher status than they. [ [http://www.bullz-eye.com/relationships/double_your_dating/2005/071901.htm 'The ultimate mistake men make with women'] ] ("see also" Nice guy).
*Cocky and funny: also known as 'cocky comedy' can be called flirting, this refers to combination of arrogance and humor. A humorous mock arrogance intended to communicate with intelligence and being 'a challenge'. DeAngelo points out that it is important to get the balance right, as just using 'cocky' "comes across as insecure, and comedy alone usually comes across as goofy and dumb." "Cocky and Funny" is often abbreviated as "C&F."DeAngelo, D. (2004) "Attraction Isn't A Choice".] [ [http://www.fastseduction.com/mailbag/2002-02-06a.shtml 'How To Be Cocky And Funny'] ]
*Counterintuitive behavior: DeAngelo's description of some of his techniques to attract women, as they are the opposite of what most people "think" is attractive. Examples of such behavior include teasing a woman offhandedly and refusing to compliment her appearance. Can also be phrased as "Don't behave in a boring or predictable way". [ [http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=68804&seen=1 Articles : 77 Laws of success with women and dating] ]
*Life changes: DeAngelo reiterates that the purpose of his programs is to effect a complete personality and lifestyle change among men that will help them achieve dating success. [ [http://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice_150/175_dating_tips_a.html AskMen.com - Become interesting ] ]
*Emulate the Successful: DeAngelo encourages the following and emulation of those successful with women. He records interviews with those very successful in dating and releases them monthly as part of a subscription service.
*Sexual Communication: DeAngelo's principle of a 'secret mating language' or 'secret mating dance' that takes place between a man and a woman before they can mate.
*Reframing: Restructuring one's own beliefs set into a new one, such as changing self-doubt to positive thinking.

Double Your Dating

"Double Your Dating" [cite web|url=http://www.doubleyourdating.com/|title=Double Your Dating|accessdate=2008-07-24] is a series of tutorials primarily advertised and sold through the internet. He is also the founder of a business company named getaltitude.com

The foundation for the "Double Your Dating" series is an ebook which claims to help men "demystify" much of what goes into attraction. It has won numerous online awards such as Seduction Book of the year 2008 [ [http://www.seductionbooks.org/pages/subcategory.php?sub=Books%20Every%20Seducer%20Should%20Read Books Every Seducer Should Read - SeductionBooks.org ] ] . Following the ebook, DeAngelo created further materials in the series, including a second ebook, as well as several ebooklets, seminars on DVDs and CDs covering various topics (notably the Advanced and Mastery series, as well as Meeting Women Online, Deep Inner Game, Power Sexuality, On Being a Man, Cocky Comedy and Body Language and several others), and the monthly "Interviews with Dating Gurus" CD subscription. Many of the guests that appear in his interview series also appear in his seminars and programs.

Criticism

Some critics regard "Cocky & Funny", DeAngelo's best known technique, as overrated. The critics generally believe that the technique may backfire and be interpreted as arrogant, insecure, and phony, and may actually harm a man's chances with women.

DeAngelo points out that "arrogance by itself is a turn-off to women", while "arrogant humor that MAKES THEM LAUGH is a HUGE turn on". There should be an equal balance between Cocky & Funny. It should also be noted that DeAngelo has acknowledged that his work is a collection of suggestions and ideas and not to be taken as dogma. As evidenced in his Sexual Communication series, DeAngelo encourages students to evaluate his material "with your own minds".

Program DVD Sets for Sale

Foundation Programs

*Advanced Series (Advanced Dating Techniques) (2nd edition, 18 CDs or 9 DVDs, 2006) - Guests: Lance (Mason), Dave M (InsiderInternetDating), Zan (Perrion), Christian Carter, Guy Blews, Neil Strauss (Style), Brent, Doc (Dr. Amir Georges Sabongui), Leil Lowndes, and Geoffrey Miller
*Sexual Communication (2nd edition, 6 CDs or 3 DVDs, 2005) - Guests: Ben (Orion), Patty Contenta, and Tyler (Owen Cook)
*The Man Transformation Home Study DVD Program (23 DVDs, 2008)

Inner Game Programs

*On Being A Man...Who Naturally Attracts Women (7 CDs or 4 DVDs, 2004) - Guest: Dr. Paul
*Deep Inner Game: A Conversation With David D. & Dr. Paul (7 DVDs and 2 CDs, 2005) - with Dr. Paul
*Mastery With Women & Dating (20 CDs or 10 DVDs, 2004) - Guests: David X, Tari, Amber Lupton, Mystery, Marie Forleo, Rick H, Ben, Swinggcat, Eric Von Sydow (Hypnotica), Twentysix (Extramask, Barry Kirkey), Mike, and Tyler
*Power Sexuality (4 DVDs) - Guests: Patty Contenta, David Shade, Laura Moore, and Hypnotica & Steve P (Piccus)

Technique Programs

*Cocky Comedy And Other Conversation Skills (6 CDs or 3 DVDs, 2005) - Guests: Craig (Vassago [ [http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=756936&postcount=15 Craig's post (as "Vassago") explaining that "Grimble" in "The Game" was not a real person, but a composite character incorporating anecdotes describing several individuals.] ] ), Will (Hicks), Twentysix (Extramask/Barry Kirkey), Sean (Stephenson), and Richard (a/k/a Rick, a/k/a "Adam Armstrong.")
*Body Language For Success With Women And Dating (4 DVDs, 2005) - Guests: Mystery, Hypnotica & Steve P(iccus), Patty Contenta, Craig (Vassago), Will (Hicks), and Tyler (Owen Cook)
*Bars & Clubs (Meeting Women In Bars & Clubs And Other Public Places) (8 CDs or 4 DVDs) - Guests: Craig (Vassago), Ben (Orion), Will (Hicks), Marie Forleo, and Tyler
*Approaching Women And Starting Conversations (10 CDs or 5 DVDs) - Guests: Craig (Vassago), Will (Hicks), Toecutter (Steve Celeste), Tyler, Mystery, Dr. Paul, WingGirls, and Sean
*Meeting Women Online (10 CDs or 5 DVDs) - Guests: Neil Strauss (Style), Richard, Brent, Chet Rowland, Katherine Scott, Dave M (a/k/a dconstrukt [ [http://www.match.com/registration/registration.aspx?PU=1&handle=dconstrukt Dave M's Match.com profile] ] [ [http://truedater.com/match/dconstrukt Dave M's TrueDater.com reviews] ] ), and Kevin
*77 Laws Of Success With Women & Dating (2 DVDs, 2005) - No guest speakers

Interviews with Dating Gurus Series

columns
col1 = *Ben [and/or Marie?] (May 2003)
*David X (June 2003)
*Greg (July 2003)
*Sam (Aug. 2003)
*Robert (Sept. 2003)
*Tyler (Oct. 2003)
*Drew (Nov. 2003)
*Doc (Dec. 2003)
col2 = *Brian (Jan. 2004)
*Mike (Feb. 2004)
*“26” a.k.a. Extramask a.k.a. Barry Kirkey (March 2004)
*Tari (April 2004)
*Chet (May 2004)
*Craig (June 2004)
*Dr. Paul (July 2004)
*Swinggcat (Aug. 2004)
*Will (Sept. 2004)
*Sean Stephenson (Oct. 2004)
*Patty [and/or Richard?] (Nov. 2004)
*Brent (Dec. 2004)
col3 = *Stephen Nash (Jan. 2005)
*David M (Feb. 2005)
*Alex (March 2005)
*David Shade (April 2005)
*Steve Celeste (May 2005)
*Kathryn Scott [and/or Laura Moore?] (June 2005)
*Stephane (July 2005)
*Leil Lowndes (Aug. 2005)
*Style (Sept. 2005)
*Alex Benzer (Oct. 2005)
*Lance (Nov. 2005)
*Clifford (Dec. 2005)
col4 = *Ken (Jan. 2006)
*Geoffrey Miller (Feb. 2006)
*F J Shark (March 2006)
*Grant (April 2006)
*Steve P. and Carlos Xuma (May 2006)
*Zan (June 2006)
*Payton Kane (July 2006)
*Shawn Royster (Aug. 2006)
*David Wygant (Sept. 2006)
*Tommy Leonardi (Oct. 2006)
*Adam Armstrong (Nov. 2006)
*Joseph Matthews (Dec. 2006)
col5 = *Sean Newman (Jan. 2007)
*Scot McKay (Feb. 2007)
*Eric (March 2007)
*Vin Di Carlo (April 2007)
*Brad P. (May 2007)
*Timothy Ferriss (June 2007)
*Travis Decker (July 2007)
*Mystery (pickup artist) (Aug. 2007)
*Tucker Max (Sept. 2007)
*Johnny (Oct. 2007)
*R Don Steele (Nov. 2007)
*Mehow (Dec. 2007)
col6 = *Rion Williams (Jan. 2008)
*Oliver Turner (Feb. 2008)
*Michael (March 2008)
*Robert Glover (April 2008)
*Mike Patrick (May 2008)
*Jae Ellis (June 2008)
*Nico Princely (July 2008)
*Nathaniel Branden (Aug. 2008)
*Cory Skyy (Sept. 2008)

Community

In August 2006 [http://www.daviddstudents.com/aboutus.cfm] , David DeAngelo's students and supporters organized [http://www.daviddstudents.com The Students of David DeAngelo Website & Community] . The website is the only internet forum recognized by DeAngelo himself as an affiliate. The stated purpose of the bulletin board ". . . is to discuss various dating issues and share ideas learned from David DeAngelo's various programs."The website also offers free audio interviews with various speakers at DeAngelo's past programs. [ [http://daviddeangelo.proboards106.com/index.cgi 'DeAngelo Students'] ]

References

ee also

*Dating Coach

External links

* [http://www.facebook.com/pages/David-DeAngelo/29815525211 David DeAngelo's Facebook Page]

Persondata
NAME= DeAngelo, David
ALTERNATIVE NAMES= Pagan, Eben; Sisonyph
SHORT DESCRIPTION= Seduction guru; Motivational writer/speaker