John Thynne

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name = Sir John Thynne


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caption = Portrait of Sir John Thynne in 1566
birth_name = John Thynne
birth_date = c. 1513
birth_place = Church Stretton, Shropshire
death_date = 21 May 1580
death_place = Longleat, Wiltshire
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resting_place = Longbridge Deverill
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residence = Longleat
nationality = English
other_names = John Boteville
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employer = Edward Seymour, 1st Duke of Somerset
occupation = Steward
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spouse = (1) Christian, daughter of Sir Richard Gresham, Lord Mayor of London
(2) Dorothy, daughter of Sir William Wroughton, of Broad Hinton, Wiltshire
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children = John, Dorothy, Anne, Francis, Thomas, Elizabeth, Catherine, Frances, Maria, Egremont, Henry, Charles, Edward, and William
parents = Thomas Thynne, "alias" Boteville, and Margaret, daughter of Thomas Eynns
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Sir John Thynne (c. 1513 - 21 May 1580) was steward to Edward Seymour, 1st Duke of Somerset (c. 1506-1552) and a member of parliament. He was the builder of Longleat House and his descendants became Marquesses of Bath.

Early life

Thynne was born in Church Stretton, Shropshire, in 1512-1513, and was the eldest son of Thomas Thynne and of his wife Margaret, a daughter of Thomas Eynns. His uncle William Thynne was a courtier in the household of King Henry VIII and a literary editor. However, there is no other information about Thynne's youth, which may have been influenced by his uncle at court.

The Thynne family was also called Boteville (or Botfield), so was often called "Thynne alias Boteville".Girouard, Mark, "Thynne, Sir John (1512/13–1580), estate manager and builder of Longleat" in Oxford Dictionary of Biography (Oxford University Press, 2004)]

Career

The first record of Thynne is in 1535, when he was in the service of Lord Vaux of Harrowden. In a surviving account book kept by Lord Vaux's steward, he is listed among forty-six people 'ordinary of Household' who attended Lord Vaux's family at Harrowden between 2 August and 28 October 1535.

Between March and November 1538, Thynne, described as Lord Hertford's servant, brought an action in the Court of Chancery concerning the parsonage of Wilby, Northamptonshire, claiming he had wrongly been excluded from it by Lord Vaux.

In 1536, Thynne became steward to Edward Seymour, Viscount Beauchamp, during the short period when Seymour's sister Jane Seymour was the Queen of Henry VIII of England. Seymour was later Marquess of Hertford and Duke of Somerset. Thynne continued in his place as steward until Seymour's execution for treason in 1552.

Seymour built up great estates in London and the west of England, not least after he became Lord Protector of England and the first Duke of Somerset in 1547, while his nephew Edward VI was king. Thynne, a hard-working servant, prospered as his master did.

In 1542 and 1544, Thynne was with Seymour on military expeditions to the north. He was probably at the Battle of Solway Moss in 1542 and was knighted after the victory of the Battle of Pinkie Cleugh of 1547.

Also in 1547, Thynne became a freeman of the City of London and a member of the Worshipful Company of Mercers.

Before he had long been Seymour's steward, Thynne began to build up his own estates in the west of England and Oxfordshire.On 11 April 1539, he took a twenty-one-year lease of the rectory of Clawton in Devon, when he was described as a resident of London. His greatest prize was the former Carthusian priory at Longleat, together with land in three parishes on the borders of Wiltshire and Somerset, which he bought on his own account in 1540. Other possessions of the former priories of Longleat and Hinton Charterhouse were granted by the Crown to Seymour, who sold them to his steward Thynne on 25 June 1541. This made a substantial estate near to Seymour's own at Maiden Bradley. Beginning in 1546, Thynne spent more than thirty-five years building a great house at Longleat.Girouard, Mark, "The development of Longleat House between 1546 and 1572" in "Archaeological Journal", 116 (1959), pp. 200–22]

Thynne became member of parliament for Marlborough in 1545 (and perhaps also in 1539 and 1542), and for Salisbury in 1547. A historian of Marlborough, James Waylen, states that Thynne was twice member for Marlborough before 1545. This is supported by a bond for £33 from the Corporation of Marlborough which Thynne was holding in March 1544, roughly equal to his parliamentary wages of two shillings a day for the three sessions of the Parliament of 1539 and the first two sessions of the one of 1542. He was also High sheriff of Somerset and Dorset for 1548-1549.

In 1549, he made a rich match in marrying Christian, a daughter of Sir Richard Gresham.

The Duke of Somerset fell from power in 1549, and Thynne was twice imprisoned in the Tower of London. Somerset was arrested at Windsor on 11 October 1549, and on 13 October Thynne was sent to the Tower with William Grey, Sir Thomas Smith, Sir Michael Stanhope and Edward Wolf, these being described as the Duke's "principal instruments and counsellors... in the affairs of his ill government". In August 1550, he was pardoned and all his goods and offices were restored, but he was put into the Tower again on 16 October 1551. After Somerset's execution, like his other followers who were spared, Thynne lost his offices and much of his land, and he was heavily fined. He retired to Longleat and led a country life there.

Thynne responded to Queen Mary's orders of 19 July, 1553, by proclaiming her queen at Warminster, where he was high steward, but under her reign he continued to live in Wiltshire.

When Queen Elizabeth I inherited the throne, many of Thynne's friends returned to power, and he was again able to expand his estates and to recover some of his offices.

Thynne was again a member of parliament, for Wiltshire in 1559, for Great Bedwyn in 1563, for Wiltshire again in 1571, and for Heytesbury in 1572. He was High Sheriff of Wiltshire for 1568-1569, and Custos rotulorum and a Justice of Peace for Wiltshire from 1558-1559 until his death.

When he died in 1580, Thynne left manors in Wiltshire, Gloucestershire, Somerset and Oxfordshire, and property in the cities of London, Westminster, and Bristol. [Will of Sir John Thynne, The National Archives: Public Record Office, ref. PROB 11/62] He was entombed in the parish church at Longbridge Deverill, Wiltshire. At his funeral, gowns were given to sixty poor men, mourning suits to sixty-one servants, and cloaks to a great many gentlemen, and the funeral expenses came to £380, 8s & 3d.Burke, John, "The Portrait Gallery of Distinguished Females, Including Beauties" (1833), p. 24]

Builder

Thynne supervised Seymour's planned great house on a hill called Bedwyn Brail at Great Bedwyn in Wiltshire, intended to replace his ancestral seat of Wolf Hall. The house was unfinished when Seymour fell from power, but a correspondence survives, dated between November 1548 and June 1549, which shows Thynne directing the plans. He also played a part in the building of Seymour's neo-classical Somerset House in London.

At Longleat, Thynne took thirty-seven years to design and build his own great neo-classical house with four facades, Doric, Ionic, and Corinthian pilasters, and regularly spaced bay windows. A perfectionist, he employed only the best craftsmen, including the English master mason and architect Robert Smythson and the French mason Alan Maynard. He suffered a setback in 1567, when there was a major fire at the house. However, during the long process of construction, Longleat became the centre of a new school of building. Smythson went on to design Hardwick Hall, Wollaton Hall, Burghley House, and Burton Agnes Hall, and is described by Mark Girouard in the "Oxford Dictionary of National Biography" as "the strongest architectural personality to have survived from the Elizabethan and Jacobean age". [Girouard, Mark, "Smythson, Robert (1534/5–1614), master mason and architect" in "Oxford Dictionary of National Biography" (OUP, 2004)]

Marriages and descendants

In 1549, Thynne made a rich match in marrying Christian, a daughter of Sir Richard Gresham and a sister of Sir Thomas Gresham, founder of the Royal Exchange. Their marriage settlement was entered into in January 1549, and they had three sons and six daughters. [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/JohnThynne.htm John Thynne] biography at tudorplace.com.ar (accessed 15 January 2008)]

Thynne's nine children with Christian Gresham were: John (who married Joan Hayward); Dorothy (who married John Strangeways and was buried 25 September 1592); Anne (who married John Cole); Francis (who married Alice Knocker); Thomas (who married Emily Bembridge); Elizabeth (who married John Chamberlayne); Catherine (who married firstly Walter Long and secondly Hugh Fox); Frances; and Maria.

In about 1566, after the death of his first wife, Thynne married secondly Dorothy, a daughter of Sir William Wroughton, of Broad Hinton, and of his wife Eleanor Lewknor. Together they had five sons: Egremont (married Barbara Calthorpe); Henry (married Elizabeth Chudleigh); Charles; Edward (married Theodosia Manners); and William (married Alice Talbot). Dorothy survived her husband and married secondly Carew Raleigh of Downton House near Salisbury, member of parliament for Downton in 1604, and the brother of Sir Walter Raleigh. [Croft, Pauline, "Free Trade and the House of Commons, 1605-6", in "The Economic History Review", new series, vol. 28, no. 1 (Feb., 1975), pp. 17-27]

Thynne's eldest son, John, was knighted by King James I on 11 May 1603, four days after James arrived to take up the English crown. The new Sir John Thynne's wife, Joan, was the daughter of Sir Rowland Hayward, twice Lord Mayor of London, and of Joan, daughter and heiress of Sir William Tyllsworth. She brought the Thynne family new estates in Shropshire and elsewhere.Collins, Arthur, "Peerage of England" (1812) pp 500-501]

In 1641, Thynne's great-grandson Henry Frederick Thynne (1615-1680) was created a baronet in the Baronetage of England [ [http://www.thepeerage.com/p1773.htm#i17725 Sir Henry Frederick Thynne, 1st Bt.] at thepeerage.com (accessed 15 January 2008)] , and in 1682 "his" son, Sir Thomas Thynne, 2nd Baronet, was created Viscount Weymouth. In 1789, Thomas Thynne, 3rd Viscount Weymouth (1734-1796) became the first of the Marquesses of Bath ["Thomas Thynne, 1st Marquess of Bath", in "Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition" (1910–1911)] , a line which continues to the present-day Alexander Thynn, 7th Marquess of Bath (born 1932). [ [http://www.thepeerage.com/p2407.htm Sir Alexander George Thynn, 7th Marquess of Bath] at thepeerage.com (accessed 15 January 2008)]

References

External links

* [http://www.longleat.co.uk/ Longleat House] - official site