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Dundee derby City or region Dundee Teams involved Dundee United, Dundee Most wins Dundee United (71) The Dundee derby refers to a football match between Dundee and Dundee United. Both clubs are based yards apart in the city of Dundee, the fourth-largest city in Scotland.
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History
Dundee are the older of the two having been founded in 1893, compared to Dundee United who were founded in 1909 as Dundee Hibernian following the demise of Dundee Harp a club founded by Irish immigrants in 1879. While United's origins stem from Irish immigration the rivalry is not sectarian in the way the Old Firm is. Dundee had long been the most successful club, playing more seasons in the top flight than their rivals and winning one League title, one Scottish Cup and three League Cups before United lifted a major trophy. However from the 1970s under Jim McLean the tide was turning in the city's footballing rivalry. United would go onto be a major force in Scottish football in the 1980s, winning the 1983 league title and their rivalry with Aberdeen being phrased the New Firm. In 2010 United won their second Scottish Cup and with it levelling Dundee's 5 major trophies.
The two grounds are the closest League grounds in Britain and with it has led a unique rivalry though one often deemed more amicable than most, similar to the Merseyside derby and Derby della Lanterna of Genoa with many families split down the middle in support. The two clubs even had a combined hooligan firm known as the Dundee Utility which was formed to stand up to the larger firms of the Old Firm and Edinburgh clubs.Domestic head-to-head
In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 153 times, Dundee United winning 71 compared to Dundee's 45. A total of 37 matches have ended in a stalemate.[1] Dundee United have won more league, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.
- As of 27 November 2008
Team League Scottish Cup League Cup Total Dundee F.C. 38 3 4 45 Dundee United F.C. 58 7 6 71 Draw 27 7 3 37 League competition
Main article: Scottish Premier League#All-time SPL tableSince the beginning of the Scottish Premier League, Dundee United have a considerably superior record, having spent thirteen seasons in the top division to Dundee's seven as well achieving the highest finish (3rd in 2010 to Dundee's 5th in 1999). In the SPL, the clubs actually have an identical points to game average.
Dundee however have competed in more seasons of top flight football, 91 in total to United's 54 but United maintain a better points to game average in the top tier. Both clubs have won the Scottish Championship once, Dundee in 1962 and United in 1983.All time top flight table (1890/91-present – 114th Season)
- As of 15 May 2011:
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts Pts avg Champions 2nd 3rd 4th Dundee 91 3074 1193 689 1192 4852 4769 83 4268 1.38 1 4 1 7 Dundee United 54 1984 752 512 720 2890 2857 33 2768 1.39 1 - 8 10 SPL Table (1998/99-present – 13th Season)
- As of 15 May 2011:
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts Pts avg Champions 2nd 3rd 4th Dundee 7 262 80 61 121 308 412 −104 301 1.14 - - - - Dundee United 13 490 146 137 207 560 732 −172 575 1.17 - - 1 1 Premier Division Table (1975/76-1997/98 – 22 Seasons)
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts Pts avg Champions 2nd 3rd 4th Dundee 13 500 149 118 233 636 794 −158 565 1.13 - - - - Dundee United 21 796 335 224 238 1131 843 288 1229 1.54 1 - 7 8 European competition
In European competition, Dundee United have played in more tournaments and in more games, competing in 24 tournaments to Dundee's 7 and in 74 more matches.[2] Neither side has won a trophy, although United were runners-up in the 1986–87 UEFA Cup and both sides have reached the semi-finals of the European Cup once.
- As of 26 August 2010:
Team T P W D L F A Dundee 7 32 16 2 14 61 48 Dundee United 24 106 45 29 32 163 106 Trophy cabinet comparison
Both clubs have won 5 major Scottish football trophies.
Club League Champions Scottish Cup Winners League Cup Winners Total Total Seasons Total Seasons Total Seasons Dundee 1 1961–62 1 1909–10 3 1951–52, 1952–53, 1973–74 5 Dundee United 1 1982–83 2 1993–94, 2009–10 2 1979–80, 1980–81 5 Team Records
The following are records just for the Dundee derby itself:
- The longest unbeaten run in all matches is 13, held by United, this was between December 1979 and September 1983, 11 of these were Wins.
- The longest unbeaten run in home matches is held by Dundee when United failed to beat them for 14 games between November 1925 and August 1962.
- The longest unbeaten run in away matches is held by United with a 12 match run at Dens Park between April 1963 and April 1971 which included 8 victories.
- The longest unbroken winning run in all matches belongs to United with 7 between March 1988 and April 1989.
- The longest unbroken winning run at home belongs to United with 6 between September 1974 and September 1981.
- The longest unbroken winning run away from home belongs to United who scored 8 consecutive victories at Dens Park between December 1980 and November 1984.
- The record home victory in a league match is 5–0 recorded by Dundee at Dens Park in August 1926
- The record away victory in a league match is 5–0 recorded by United at Dens Park in September 1965.
- The highest scoring match was in September 1971 when Dundee won 6–4 at Dens Park.
- Paul Sturrock of United holds the mark for the most derby goals with 14, 2 of these came in United's 3–0 League Cup Final win over Dundee at Dens Park in December 1980.
- Record Attendance:
29,106 at Dens Park, 14 May 1983 (Premier Division) 21,325 at Tannadice, 3 January 1966 (old Division One)
- Lowest Attendance:
9,185 at Tannadice, 12 December 1999 (SPL) 7,645 at Dens Park, 29 January 1994 (Premier Division)
Players at both clubs
Thirteen players have signed for Dundee United directly from Dundee with seven making the opposite journey from Tannadice to Dens Park. Only players who have played at least one first team game for both clubs are currently included.
Dundee to Dundee United
Date Player Fee 1909 Tim Dailly Unknown[3] 1909 Thomas Flood Unknown[3] 1913 Collie Martin Unknown[3] 1913 Fred Stoessell Unknown[3] 1947 Jimmy Dickson Unknown[3] 1948 Kinnaird Ouchterlonie Unknown[3] 1969 Alex Stuart Unknown 1973 Duncan McLeod Unknown 1977 Bobby Robinson Unknown 29 Nov 1978 Iain Phillip £25,000[4] 06 Aug 1996 Neil Duffy £200,000[5] 03 Jun 2008 Scott Robertson Bosman[6] 23 Jun 2008 Paul Dixon £25,000[7] Dundee United to Dundee
Date Player Fee 1947 George Mackay Unknown[3] 1948 Jack Court Unknown[3] 1971 Ian Scott Unknown 1977 Billy Williamson Unknown 13 Dec 1986 Tommy Coyne £75,000[8] 1995 Roy McBain Unknown 03 Jun 1997 Jim McInally Free[9] Complete list
In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.
- Stuart Beedie
- Kenny Cameron
- Aaron Conway
- Jimmy Dickson
- Paul Dixon
- Billy Dodds
- Neil Duffy
- Iain Ferguson
- Alan Gordon
- James Grady
- Jim Hamilton
- John Holt
- Billy Kirkwood
- Jim Lauchlan
- George Mackay
- Lee Mair
- Collie Martin
- Roy McBain
- Jim McInally
- Stewart McKimmie
- Andy McLaren
- Duncan McLeod
- Gordon McLeod
- John McQuillan
- Kinnaird Ouchterlonie
- Iain Phillip
- Ian Redford
- Paul Ritchie
- Steven Robb
- Scott Robertson
- Bobby Robinson
- Craig Samson
- Ian Scott
- Rab Shannon
- Harry Smith
- Alex Stuart
- Billy Thomson
- Gordon Wallace
- Lee Wilkie
- Billy Williamson
- Unknown
- Tim Dailly
- Thomas Flood
- Fred Stoessell
- Bert Dainty
- Jack Court
Player records
- Dundee scorers from 13 Mar 1991 onwards, United scorers from 11 Aug 1979 onwards
Full game list
Fixtures from 1925 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches. Friendlies, testimonials and other non-competitive games are not included.[10][11] Dundee wins are coloured in blue, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey. Note that United played in white until 1969 but tangerine is used throughout for ease.
Date Competition Venue Result Crowd Scorers (Dundee) Scorers (United) 21 Nov 1925 Division One Dens 0–0 18,000 04 Jan 1926 Division One Tannadice 0–1 20,059 Unknown 28 Aug 1926 Division One Dens 5–0 20,000 Unknown 03 Jan 1927 Division One Tannadice 1–0 20,000 Jock Kay 04 Feb 1928 Scottish Cup R2 Tannadice 3–3 20,365 Unknown Jacky Kay, Hutchison (2) 08 Feb 1928 Scottish Cup R2 r Dens 1–0 12,839 Unknown 16 Feb 1929 Scottish Cup R3 Dens 1–1 24,000 Unknown Hutchison 20 Feb 1929 Scottish Cup R3 r Tannadice 1–0 14,000 Henderson 31 Aug 1929 Division One Dens 1–0 14,200 Unknown 11 Jan 1930 Division One Tannadice 0–1 16,000 Unknown 12 Sep 1931 Division One Dens 1–1 17,000 Unknown Brant 02 Jan 1932 Division One Tannadice 0–3 16,000 Unknown 17 Sep 1938 Division Two Tannadice 3–0 10,523 Woolley (2), Meikleham 18 Mar 1939 Division Two Dens 2–0 12,500 Unknown 24 Aug 1946 Division Two Tannadice 1–2 21,000 Unknown Mackay 01 Jan 1947 Division Two Dens 2–0 24,000 Unknown 27 Jan 1951 Scottish Cup R1 Dens 2–2 38,000 Unknown McKay, Dunsmore 31 Jan 1951 Scottish Cup R1 r Tannadice 0–1 22,000 Unknown 04 Feb 1956 Scottish Cup R5 Tannadice 2–2 20,000 Unknown Milne (2) 08 Feb 1956 Scottish Cup R5 r Dens 3–0 17,000 Unknown 12 Sep 1956 League Cup QF-1 Dens 7–3 20,000 Unknown Sturrock, Reid (2) 15 Sep 1956 League Cup QF-2 Tannadice 2–1 14,000 Unknown Reid, Milne 17 Sep 1960 Division One Tannadice 3–1 20,000 Unknown Briggs, Campbell (2) 07 Jan 1961 Division One Dens 3–0 22,000 Unknown 09 Sep 1961 Division One Dens 4–1 18,765 Unknown Gillespie 09 Apr 1962 Division One Tannadice 1–2 21,138 Unknown Irvine 11 Aug 1962 League Cup Grp 2 Tannadice 3–2 22,917 Unknown Carlyle (2), Irvine 25 Aug 1962 League Cup Grp 2 Dens 2–1 18,493 Unknown Irvine 15 Sep 1962 Division One Tannadice 1–1 15,627 Unknown Carlyle 17 Apr 1963 Division One Dens 1–2 14,967 Unknown Mochan, Mitchell 14 Sep 1963 Division One Dens 1–1 20,945 Unknown Mitchell 02 Jan 1964 Division One Tannadice 2–1 21,255 Unknown Mitchell (2) 08 Aug 1964 League Cup Grp 4 Dens 2–3 16,773 Unknown Gillespie, Thom, Munro 22 Aug 1964 League Cup Grp 4 Tannadice 2–1 14,519 Unknown Graham[disambiguation needed ], Munro 12 Sep 1964 Division One Tannadice 1–4 16,838 Unknown Thom 24 Mar 1965 Division One Dens 2–4 16,958 Unknown Persson (2), Gillespie, Døssing 18 Aug 1965 League Cup Grp 1 Dens 0–0 23,095 01 Sep 1965 League Cup Grp 1 Tannadice 1–3 18,705 Unknown Mitchell 11 Sep 1965 Division One Dens 0–5 15,058 Døssing (3), Gillespie, Wing 03 Jan 1966 Division One Tannadice 2–1 21,325 Unknown Mitchell, Seemann 13 Aug 1966 League Cup Grp 1 Tannadice 2–0 13,867 Persson, Hainey 27 Aug 1966 League Cup Grp 1 Dens 1–1 10,087 Unknown Hainey 17 Sep 1966 Division One Tannadice 1–4 10,198 Unknown Mitchell 03 Jan 1967 Division One Dens 2–3 17,286 Unknown Graham (3) 16 Sep 1967 Division One Dens 2–2 13,186 Unknown Briggs, Millar 02 Jan 1968 Division One Tannadice 0–0 14,014 14 Sep 1968 Division One Tannadice 3–1 13,942 Unknown Mitchell, Wood, Cameron 02 Jan 1969 Division One Dens 1–2 19,549 Unknown Mitchell, Hogg 20 Sep 1969 Division One Dens 1–2 11,888 Unknown Gordon, Gillespie 03 Jan 1970 Division One Tannadice 4–1 16,891 Unknown Cameron (2), og, Wilson 12 Sep 1970 Division One Tannadice 3–2 12,319 Unknown Cameron, Gillespie, Gordon 05 Apr 1971 Division One Dens 2–3 11,590 Unknown Cameron, Gordon, Reid 11 Sep 1971 Division One Dens 6–4 13,818 Unknown Gordon, Rolland (2), Smith 03 Jan 1972 Division One Tannadice 1–1 16,954 Unknown Cameron 16 Sep 1972 Division One Tannadice 2–1 12,071 Unknown Gardner, White 06 Jan 1973 Division One Dens 3–0 13,570 Unknown 15 Sep 1973 Division One Dens 0–1 12,092 Smith 05 Jan 1974 Division One Tannadice 1–2 12,087 Unknown Gardner 14 Sep 1974 Division One Tannadice 3–0 10,857 Gray (2), Munro 04 Jan 1975 Division One Dens 2–0 16,184 Unknown 18 Oct 1975 Premier Division Dens 2–1 11,327 Unknown Houston 20 Dec 1975 Premier Division Dens 0–0 9,957 28 Feb 1976 Premier Division Tannadice 1–0 10,199 McAdam 21 Apr 1976 Premier Division Dens 2–1 13,768 Unknown Hall 11 Aug 1979 Premier Division Tannadice 3–0 17,968 Sturrock, Kirkwood, Stark 20 Oct 1979 Premier Division Dens 1–0 16,305 Unknown 22 Dec 1979 Premier Division Tannadice 2–0 15,431 Holt, Pettigrew 30 Jan 1980 Scottish Cup R3 Tannadice 5–1 18,604 Unknown Pettigrew (4), Sturrock 01 Mar 1980 Premier Division Dens 1–1 15,110 Unknown Sturrock 06 Dec 1980 League Cup Final Dens 0–3 24,466 Dodds, Sturrock (2) 12 Sep 1981 Premier Division Tannadice 5–2 15,696 Unknown Kirkwood, Sturrock (2), Milne, Bannon 14 Nov 1981 Premier Division Dens 1–3 15,578 Unknown Milne, Sturrock (2) 10 Mar 1982 Premier Division Tannadice 1–1 13,790 Unknown og 03 Apr 1982 Premier Division Dens 0–2 12,602 Bannon, Sturrock 30 Oct 1982 Premier Division Tannadice 1–0 14,959 Dodds 01 Jan 1983 Premier Division Dens 0–2 18,109 Milne (2) 12 Mar 1983 Premier Division Tannadice 5–3 13,448 Unknown Gough (2), Reilly, Hegarty, Dodds 14 May 1983 Premier Division Dens 1–2 29,106 Ferguson Milne, Bannon 03 Sep 1983 Premier Division Dens 1–4 13,651 Unknown Reilly (2), Milne, Stark 05 Nov 1983 Premier Division Tannadice 0–1 14,813 Unknown 02 Apr 1984 Premier Division Dens 2–5 12,732 Unknown Malpas, Reilly, Dodds, Bannon, Milne 21 Apr 1984 Premier Division Tannadice 1–1 13,244 Unknown Clark 08 Sep 1984 Premier Division Tannadice 3–4 14,190 Unknown Clark (2), Sturrock 10 Nov 1984 Premier Division Dens 0–2 14,423 Gough, Coyne 03 Apr 1985 Premier Division Tannadice 4–0 15,167 Bannon, Sturrock, Taylor, Dodds 11 May 1985 Premier Division Dens 1–0 13,426 Unknown 24 Aug 1985 Premier Division Tannadice 2–0 13,736 Beedie, Sturrock 16 Nov 1985 Premier Division Dens 0–3 11,736 Hegarty (2), Kirkwood 28 Dec 1985 Premier Division Tannadice 0–0 14,869 29 Mar 1986 Premier Division Dens 0–1 15,079 Gough 06 Sep 1986 Premier Division Dens 0–2 12,379 Milne, Bannon 08 Nov 1986 Premier Division Tannadice 0–3 11,728 Unknown 10 Mar 1987 Premier Division Dens 1–1 11,615 Unknown Gallacher 28 Mar 1987 Premier Division Tannadice 1–1 12,220 Unknown og 11 Apr 1987 Scottish Cup SF Tynecastle 3–2 13,319 Unknown Ferguson (2), Hegarty 02 Sep 1987 League Cup QF Dens 2–1
aet19,867 Unknown Ferguson 03 Oct 1987 Premier Division Dens 1–1 11,497 Unknown Ferguson 28 Nov 1987 Premier Division Tannadice 1–3 13,626 Unknown Clark 16 Jan 1988 Premier Division Dens 0–2 13,644 Paatelainen, Bannon 12 Mar 1988 Scottish Cup R5 Dens 0–0 19,355 15 Mar 1988 Scottish Cup R5 r Tannadice 2–2
aet19,102 Unknown Bannon (2) 28 Mar 1988 Scottish Cup R5 r2 Dens 0–3 19,152 McLeod, Redford, Ferguson 02 Apr 1988 Premier Division Tannadice 1–0 13,876 French 03 Sep 1988 Premier Division Dens 0–3 14,927 Paatelainen (2), Gallacher 05 Nov 1988 Premier Division Tannadice 2–0 14,882 Meade, Paatelainen 07 Jan 1989 Premier Division Dens 0–1 16,332 French 28 Jan 1989 Scottish Cup R3 Dens 1–2 18,117 Unknown Bowman, Meade 08 Apr 1989 Premier Division Tannadice 2–1 11,912 Unknown Sturrock, Gallacher 19 Aug 1989 Premier Division Dens 4–3 13,623 Unknown Malpas, O'Neill, Paatelainen 28 Oct 1989 Premier Division Tannadice 0–0 11,528 30 Dec 1989 Premier Division Dens 1–1 12,805 Unknown Jackson 20 Jan 1990 Scottish Cup R3 Dens 0–0 14,276 23 Jan 1990 Scottish Cup R3 r Tannadice 1–0 15,503 Clark 24 Mar 1990 Premier Division Tannadice 1–2 11,918 Unknown Connolly 13 Mar 1991 Scottish Cup QF Tannadice 3–1 16,228 Dodds McKinnon, Jackson, Ferguson 19 Sep 1992 Premier Division Tannadice 0–1 12,622 Unknown 21 Nov 1992 Premier Division Dens 1–3 11,116 Unknown Bollan, Connolly, Clark 27 Feb 1993 Premier Division Tannadice 1–0 12,140 Ferguson 20 Apr 1993 Premier Division Dens 0–4 9,589 Connolly, Dailly (2), Bollan 11 Sep 1993 Premier Division Tannadice 1–0 10,283 McLaren 07 Dec 1993 Premier Division Dens 1–2 9,256 Unknown Brewster, Connolly 05 Feb 1994 Premier Division Tannadice 1–1 10,622 Ristić Connolly 29 Mar 1994 Premier Division Dens 1–1 7,645 Unknown Brewster 30 Sep 1995 First Division Dens 2–3 10,395 Hamilton (2) McKinlay (3) 18 Nov 1995 First Division Tannadice 2–3 10,682 Shaw (2), Wieghorst Brewster, Malpas 09 Jan 1996 First Division Dens 0–2 9,199 Winters (2) 16 Mar 1996 First Division Tannadice 2–0 9,669 Brewster, McSwegan 03 Sep 1996 League Cup R3 Tannadice 2–2
2–4 p11,839 Hamilton (2) Coyle, McSwegan 19 Sep 1998 Premier League Dens 2–2 12,081 Annand, Adamczuk McSwegan, Olofsson 22 Nov 1998 Premier League Tannadice 0–1 11,230 Grady 02 Jan 1999 Premier League Dens 1–3 11,751 McSkimming Dodds, Thompson, Olofsson 1 May 1999 Premier League Tannadice 0–2 12,280 Irvine, Grady 31 Jul 1999 Premier League Tannadice 2–1 11,693 Falconer Skoldmark, Ferraz 17 Oct 1999 Premier League Dens 0–2 9,484 Dodds, Thompson 12 Dec 1999 Premier League Tannadice 1–0 9,185 Ferraz 6 May 2000 Premier League Dens 3–0 8,581 Falconer (2), Grady 20 Sep 2000 Premier League Dens 3–0 9,838 Sara (3) 11 Nov 2000 Premier League Tannadice 0–2 11,454 Caniggia, Nemsadze 31 Jan 2001 Premier League Dens 2–3 11,724 Caniggia, Falconer Davidson, Easton, Lauchlan 28 Jul 2001 Premier League Tannadice 2–2 13,327 Sara, Rae Miller, Hamilton 03 Nov 2001 Premier League Dens 1–1 11,751 Carranza Miller 19 Jan 2002 Premier League Tannadice 1–0 12,851 McIntyre 20 Apr 2002 Premier League Dens 0–1 10,087 Wilkie (og) 31 Aug 2002 Premier League Tannadice 0–0 12,402 23 Nov 2002 Premier League Dens 3–2 11,539 Caballero (2), Hernandez Hamilton, McIntyre 09 Feb 2003 Premier League Tannadice 1–1 10,457 Novo Mackay (og) 26 Oct 2003 Premier League Tannadice 1–1 12,292 Novo McIntyre 25 Jan 2004 Premier League Dens 2–1 10,747 Novo, Lovell Dodds 11 Apr 2004 Premier League Tannadice 2–2 9,571 Lovell, Milne Dodds (2) 15 Aug 2004 Premier League Tannadice 1–2 11,118 Lovell, Sutton Archibald 06 Nov 2004 Premier League Dens 1–0 9,845 Sutton 29 Jan 2005 Premier League Tannadice 2–2 12,703 McManus, Lovell Duff, McIntyre 30 Apr 2005 Premier League Dens 1–2 11,263 Lovell Wilson, McIntyre References
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