Ivor Herbert, 1st Baron Treowen

Ivor Herbert, 1st Baron Treowen

Major General Ivor John Caradoc Herbert, 1st Baron Treowen, CB, CMG, KStJ (July 15 1851–October 18 1933), was a Liberal British politician, and British Army officer in the Grenadier Guards, [His name is given as "Colonel Ivor Herbert, of the Grenadier Guards" in 1896 in an article about his grandmother's death. [http://web.ukonline.co.uk/gwenynen.gwent/marw.htm] . Retrieved 10 August 2007] who served as General Officer Commanding the Forces Canada from 1890 to 1895. He was made a baronet in 1907 and raised to a barony in 1917.


Ivor Herbert, born 15 July 1851 at the family seat Llanarth Court, at Llanarth between Abergavenny and Raglan in Monmouthshire, was the eldest son of John Arthur Edward Herbert, formerly Arthur Jones, of Llanarth (1818-1895), [Lady Llanover's son-in-law is so named by the National Library of Wales website. Retrieved 10 August 2007 [http://www.archivesnetworkwales.info/cgi-bin/anw/fulldesc_nofr?inst_id=1&coll_id=334&expand=] . The Gwent Record Offices say that "John Jones's son, John Arthur Jones (1818-1895), obtained a royal licence in 1848 for himself and his brothers and sisters to assume the surname of Herbert in lieu of Jones, being the senior existing branch of the house of Herbert.]


In 1846 he married Augusta Hall, the only surviving child and heir of Benjamin Hall, 1st Baron Llanover (1802-1867).". [ [http://www.archivesnetworkwales.info/cgi-bin/anw/fulldesc_nofr?inst_id=36&coll_id=1180&expand= Archives Network Wales - Llanarth Court MSS ] at www.archivesnetworkwales.info] The marriage took place on 12 November 1846 [ [http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-HALL-BEN-1802.html The National Library of Wales :: Dictionary of Welsh Biography ] at yba.llgc.org.uk] and two years later, the husband and his brothers assumed the name of Herbert by Royal License as the senior branch of the Herbert family. (Ironically, no member of this family had been known by that name, so the Jones family was actually taking the name of a junior and more well-known branch, the Herbert earls of Powis). Retrieved 10 August 2007] descended from an ancient Welsh Catholic family. [John Arthur Edward Herbert was grandson of John Jones of Llanarth Court (1760-1828)and his wife and cousin Mary Lee. For the early (somewhat contested) genealogy, see [http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/hh4bz/herbert01.htm] . For the genealogy of the Jones, later Herbert, family, see [http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ij/jones01.htm] . The Jones/Herbert family were intermarried with other Catholic recusant families such as the Vaughans of Courtfield near Ross-on-Wye, the Berkeleys of Spetchley and now of Berkeley Castle, and the Scropes of Danby, the head of whom married n 1821 Mary, daughter of John Jones and Mary Leei [http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ss4as/scrope4.htm] . Pages retrieved 10 August 2007.]

His mother was the Honourable Augusta Charlotte Elizabeth Hall, the only surviving daughter and sole heiress of Benjamin Hall, 1st Baron Llanover and his wife Augusta Waddington, better known as the Welsh cultural nationalist Lady Llanover, heiress of the considerable [http://www.llanover.com/ Llanover] estate in Monmouthshire. [ Leo van der Pas. "Descendants of Mary Tudor, Princess of England (gen 14-475 to 14-504 of 19 generations)" on www.worldroots.com. Retrieved 10 August 2007. [http://worldroots.com/brigitte/famous/m02/maryenglanddesc1496-84.htm] ] [ Augusta Hall (1802-1896) biography available in English. [http://www.ladyllanover.org.uk/English/english.htm] ] He had two younger brothers, Edward Bleiddyn [Darryl Landy. "Lt.-Col. Edward Bleiddian Herbert" (d. 29 April 1931, entry last edited 13 May 2003. Bleiddyn was married to a daughter of the 1st Lord Acton. Retrieved 10 August 2007. [http://www.thepeerage.com/p191.htm#i1902] ] and Arthur (whose descendants still own Llanover today). [Sir Arthur Herbert, of the Diplomatic Service, owned Coldbrook, in Abergavenny, [http://www.archivesnetworkwales.info/cgi-bin/anw/fulldesc_nofr?inst_id=36&coll_id=1184&expand=] and he or more likely, his son inherited Llanover at some point. [http://www.thepeerage.com/p6022.htm#i60219] . His son was Colonel Sir John Arthur Herbert, of Llanover, GCIE(1895-11 December] 1943) and was Governor-General of Bengal till that year. He married in 1924 a daughter of the 6th Earl of Ilchester and had issue. [http://www.thepeerage.com/p6022.htm#i60218] [http://www.william1.co.uk/c8.htm] . The names of the three brothers are available with their professions in 1896 in an article about their grandmother's death. [http://web.ukonline.co.uk/gwenynen.gwent/marw.htm] . Retrieved 10 August 2007]

Military career

Herbert was a British army officer, serving in the Grenadier Guards. He served as General Officer Commanding the Forces Canada from 1890 to 1895.

In 1896, he was Colonel in the Grenadier Guards. [His name is given as "Colonel Ivor Herbert, of the Grenadier Guards" in 1896 in an article about his grandmother's death. [http://web.ukonline.co.uk/gwenynen.gwent/marw.htm] . Retrieved 10 August 2007]

Political career

He was Member of Parliament (MP) for South Monmouthshire from 1906 until 1917.. [Leigh Rayment. An incomplete list of MPs for South Monmouthshire is available. [http://www.angeltowns.com/town/peerage/mcommons3.htm] Retrieved 10 August 2007] He was first elected an MP as Colonel Ivor Herbert, CB, of Llanarth, Monmouthshire in the South Monmouthshire constituency in the 1906 general election which brought the Liberals under Henry Campbell-Bannerman back to power. In 1907 while still an MP, he was created a baronet as Sir Ivor Herbert of Llanarth. (This did not disable his membership of the House of Commons).

On 20 June 1917, presumably as a reward for faithful service in the House of Commons, he was created 1st Baron Treowen, of Treowen, (the name of his Monmouthshire home), [ [http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/154801 Treowen House:: OS grid SO4611 :: Geograph British Isles - photograph every grid square! ] at www.geograph.org.uk] and Llanarth in the County of Monmouth, [ David Beamish. "United Kingdom peerage creations 1801 to 2007: a list compiled by David Beamish: Chronological list 1901–1950" Last updated: 12 July 2007. Retrieved 10 August 2007 [http://website.lineone.net/~david.beamish/peerages2.htm] ] and thus removed from the House of Commons to the House of Lords. The titles became extinct on his death, because his only son had been killed in action in World War I.


Lord Treowen was married on 31 July 1873 in London to the Hon. Albertina Agnes Mary Denison (22 September 1854-20 October 1929 London) [ Leo van der Pas. "Ibid."] , youngest daughter of the 1st Lord Londesborough (himself a son of the Lord Conyngham and his wife, a mistress of George IV) and his second and younger daughter by his second wife, the former Ursula Bridgeman (later Lady Otho FitzGerald; she died 1883).

Lord and Lady Treowen had the following issue.

1. Hon. Fflorens [Her name was apparently spelled in the Welsh way, although thePeerage.com gives her first name as Florence. [http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s2-ROCH-FRA-1880.html] . Retrieved 10 August 2007] Mary Ursula Herbert (1879- ); m. 20 April 1911 [ Paul Theroff. "The descendants of King Henry VII of England". Retrieved 10 August 2007 [http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/Part_h10.htm] ] Walter Francis Roch (20 January 1880-3 March 1965), then MP (Lib.) for Pembrokeshire from 1908 to 1918, whose political career ended when he continued to support Asquith. He was also a barrister at the Middle Temple from 1913. In 1934, Roch was appointed JP for Monmouthshire. Issue, if any, unknown.

2. Hon. Elydir John Bernard Herbert (13 January 1881-12 November 1917) died in Balin, Palestine, aged 36. He was unmarried. [Private genealogical website. Ancestry for Elydir Herbert. Retrieved 10 August 2007. [http://gw.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=genroy&lang=fr;p=elidyr;n=herbert] ]

The estate Llanarth, near Llanover (also owned by the Herbert family) is still owned privately. According to the estate's site, the estates are all near Abergavenny. Both Llanarth and Llanover are privately owned estate villages within a conservation area. For maps, see [ [http://www.llanover.com/index.htm?pages/maps.htm~mainFrame Llanover Llanarth and Coldbrook Estates ] at www.llanover.com] [ [http://www.llanover.com/index.htm?pages/llanarthestate.htm~mainFrame Llanover Llanarth and Coldbrook Estates ] ]



External links

* [http://www.archivesnetworkwales.info/cgi-bin/anw/fulldesc_nofr?inst_id=36&coll_id=1180&expand= A short history of the Jones, later Herbert, family up to the death of Lord Treowen] gives some details on the name change in 1848 by Royal License Retrieved 10 August 2007.
* [http://www.survivorstvseries.com/Llanarth_Court.htm Photograph of the exterior of Llanarth Court] , the family home and seat of Lord Treowen, now near Raglan, in Monmouthshire. The house is now a [http://www.partnershipsincare.co.uk/facilities/llanarth_court.html private hospital] . Retrieved 10 August 2007.
* [http://www.treowen.co.uk/about/history-1.htm Treowen, now a private hotel] The house, in Monmouthshire, was probably built in 1627. By the 1670s, the Jones family (to rename themselves Herbert in the 1800s) moved to Llanarth Court, near Abergavenny, which had by tradition been the residence of the eldest son. Treowen remained in the family until 1945, but was let as a farmhouse. Floor plans of the house are available. Retrieved 10 August 2007.
* [http://uk8.multimap.com/maps/?title=Treowen%20local%20map&t=l&
] from which Lord Treowen took his name. Retrieved 10 August 2007.

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