- Talk.origins
talk.origins (often capitalised to Talk.Origins or abbreviated as t.o.) is a moderated
Usenet discussion forum concerning theorigins of life , andevolution . It remains a major venue for debate in thecreation-evolution controversy , and its official purpose is to draw such debates out of the sciencenewsgroup s, such as sci.bio.evolution.History
The first post to talk.origins was a starter post by Mark Horton, dated
5 September 1986 cite web | url = http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/522447ebebbe9bd6 | title = First post in (then) net.origins | publisher =Google Groups | date =1986-09-05 ] In the early 1990s, a number ofFAQ s on various topics were being periodically posted to thenewsgroup . In 1994,Brett J. Vickers established an anonymous FTP site to host the collectedFAQ s of the newsgroup. In 1995, Vickers started theTalkOrigins Archive web site as another means of hosting the talk.origins FAQs. It maintains an extensive FAQ on topics inevolutionary biology ,geology andastronomy , with the aim of representing the views ofmainstream science . It has spawned other websites, notablyTalkDesign "a response to theintelligent design movement",Evowiki , and thePanda's Thumb weblog .The group was originally created as the unmoderated newsgroup net.origins as a 'dumping ground' for all the various flame threads 'polluting' other newsgroups, then renamed to talk.origins as part of the
Great Renaming . Subsequently, after discussion on the newsgroup, the group was voted to bemoderated in 1997 by the normalUSENET RFD/CFV process and only spam is censored. The moderator for the newsgroup is David Iain Greig (and technically Jim Lippard as alternate/backup).Culture
The group is characterized by a long list of in-crowd jokes like the fictitious University of Ediacara, [cite web | url = http://www.ediacara.org/ | title = Edicaria University Home Page | accessdate = 2008-09-20] the equally fictitious "Evil Atheist Conspiracy" [cite web | url = http://www.cyberdespot.com/eac.html | title = The Evil Atheist Conspiracy | accessdate = 2008-09-20] which allegedly hides all the evidence supporting
Creationism , a monthly election of the "Chez Watt"-award for "statements that make you go 'say what', or some such."cite web | url = http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/22ec69dd6686d5e4 | title = Robert Grumbine explaining the concept of Chez Watt | publisher =Google Groups | date =2005-05-05 ] ,pun cascades, a strong predisposition to quotingMonty Python and a habit of callingpenguin s "the best birds".Apart from the fun, the group includes detailed and reasoned rebuttals to creationist claims. There is an expectation that any claim is to be backed up by actual evidence, preferably in the form of a
peer-review ed publication in a reputable journal. The group as a whole votes for a PoTM-award (Post of The Month), which makes it into the annals ofTalkOrigins Archive . [cite web | url = http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/ | title = TalkOrigins.org Post of the Month Archive | publisher =talkorigins.org | date =2007-08-12 ]See also
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National Center for Science Education (NCSE)References
External links
* [http://www.talkorigins.org The Talk.Origins Archive]
* [http://www.ediacara.org/~to The talk.origins homepage]
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